And rightly so! Save the Llamas!
vlc my beloved
WACUP
Replacing native Winamp code with modern code with frequent updates by one of the most prolific classic Winamp developers.
It’s fantastic.
And you can set the visuals to unlimited fps, which is fun on a good screen
But does it whip the llamas ass?
Naturally
That’s so interesting!
Geiss support tho?
I’m surprised they kept it up for so long honestly. It was very clear they had no fucking clue what they were doing. What with the nonsensical license that violated Github’s tos, the Dolby Code they leaked, and the fact they kept every commit public for everyone to see.
Can someone explain me what’s the business model of an app that’s free for three decades? They claim to have 100 devs, how can they pay them?
They’re sponsored by WinRAR. Those guys are loaded.
Is this real?
I’m thinking no.
Well, that really sucks the llama’s ass.
Uhhh
Unsurprising given that their repo’s license was a contradictory mess
Anyways I’d recommend using Strawberry instead
It’s an actual Free and Open Source music player:
…That site’s UI looks like someone saw the marketing literature for the Frigidaire produce preserver and said, “Yeah, that’ll do.”
lmao😆
btw did you mean the background?
UI typically refers to the user interactable elementsThe whole look n’ feel. Not UI, then, maybe just call it overall design.
But it was the first thing I thought of as soon as I saw it. Even the cursive font, in pink…
Especially the pink cursive font.
The whole look n’ feel. Not UI, then, maybe just call it overall design. Even the cursive font, in pink…
ohhh yeah now that you mention it I can totally see it
The wavey font got me!
Lovely that it is open source, but dear lord that UI is a blast from the past 😂😂 👴👵🏚️
It’s an Amarok fork, so yes
Oh that makes sense. I think I last used Amarok 20 years ago.
So that’s why I thought: finally a viable Amarok replacement.
Most players out there seem to be built for like 40 songs?
It’s ugly af. Hope some designer can volunteer to set them straight.
Nice profile picture!
Thanks!
most people don’t notice🤗
Strawberry doesn’t support about a dozen audio formats I use, so until it’s got wider support I have to pass.
You have support for .wav .flac .mp3 .opus, why would you use anything else?
Because hard drives aren’t getting any bigger lately and I don’t want to multiply the size of my videogame music collection by ten?
You are saving your music in a format more efficient than opus or aac? What format is that?
Chiptune formats for retro videogame music can be very efficient. Just picking two with particularly good music, I have a 21 KB (0.02 MB) file storing 28:30 of music and 4.72 MB of files storing 1:54:48 of music, both at source quality.
The catch is that they are designed exclusively to rip chiptunes from retro videogames as close as the format designers and player coders could manage to the original. So even the oversized ones like the 4.72 MB of files extracted from a 3 MB game are going to be far smaller than a general use format like opus. But you can’t encode your own music in the format without going to massive effort to code it like you would an authentic chiptune, and you’re unlikely to like the results.
Damn, may I ask how big your entire library is? At those sizes, you can store more music than I’ll ever need in a couple of gbs.
Everything filed under “Chiptune”, excluding the AT3 and MAB files which are effectively general purpose music formats, comes to 1.14 GB for 4211 items totaling 158:50:29. There are a lot of duplicates in there, because for a lot of these items it’s more trouble to hunt down a replacement copy than it is to store a backup.
The catch, of course, is that it’s all retro videogame music from bleep to bloop.
Can you name the format you’re using to store 1:54:48 of music in 4.72 MB?
What formats?
Ten chiptune formats, two other videogame music formats (.at3 and .mab), WMA, IT, AAC, MP2, and MIDI.
.xcf
Where do you even get an audio file with a .xcf format?
Idk but I imagine that guy did find it somewhere.
save from gimp!
You get your music from GIMP?
We used to pipe all sorts of 💩 to
/dev/dspjust to know how it would sound 🤓is joke.
you downvoted me?
Will strawberry let me play a folder as a playlist from the DE’s context menus? Like right click > play in strawberry.
Strawberry doesn’t appear to include a visualizer?
I mostly use mpv to play local music nowadays. (Most of the music I play is streamed using a Navidrome server with Feishin as the frontend.) Back when I did use a proper audio player on Linux, Harmonoid was my go-to.
I’m using foobar2000. Should I be using something else?
I’m an old soul so I use music bee with the Tron skin, it’s very 2000s
Foobar is still the best there is, although the classic style interface might not appeal to younger people.
Still miss foobar which isn’t on Linux, though deadbeef is fairly similar at least. Never got the hang of all the beautiful themes/skins users put together for foobar but it was still my go to music player. Excellent layout customisation, tagging and conversion UI, as well as as nice range of plugins
I really like deadbeef, coming from fb2k as well. Someone recommended it to me two weeks ago, and I’ve immediately recognized the similarities.
Foobar’s Dev should have just taken their project open source imo. Although I suspect winamp’s lawyers would have jumped on that.
I just use Audacious with a winamp skin. Looks identical but actually FOSS.
Been doing this recently too. I’ve just got the default Winamp skin, but it’s so nice to have that part of my childhood back.
Is it still possible to get the source code? I never knew it was available.
What is this “AtRiskRepos” thing? 👀
It’s a place for software that comes from a broken home and would otherwise be hanging out on the street in high-crime areas.
No idea. I found the link over at Hacker News from this comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41861376
I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.
One has to admit it’s good that they released the source code (while it was available) so users can learn what their software is actually doing on their computer. Better for yourself as a dev too: you will probably avoid including other people’s work in yours. However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I’m reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again but since it doesn’t meet the standard of software freedom then it’s equally not worth trying on my computer.
In its day Winamp was the most comprehensive media player and users were super into its skinability which was a big deal at the time. Nowadays the “plays everything” throne is very firmly occupied by VLC, with a little cushioned stool next to it for Media Player Classic to sit on. However, neither of them offer the user interface experience that Winamp does/did.
Winamp was iTunes before iTunes. It was Spotify before Spotify. It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3’s we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.
Side note, if you have an old iPod kicking around and don’t feel like dealing with Apple’s ecosystem, Winamp can still, to this very day, stick music on your device natively without having to install or use iTunes. Just saying.
But this source code release thing really baffles me. I have no idea what the point of that was supposed to be.
Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.
It’s why I still use winamp.
It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3’s we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch.
This is why I’m still on the eternal search for a replacement. Library management was really, really good in Winamp. I use Strawberry these days and it’s absolutely great at playing stuff but the playlist management is just ‘good enough’.
If you’re running Windows you can still use old versions of Winamp.
On Linux, I dunno. I’ll bet you it’ll run in Wine.
Yep, I still use 5.666 on Windows, but I use Windows very infrequently anymore. I switched to Linux as my primary OS earlier this year and only use Windows for games that don’t work right in Linux. And thanks to Valve that’s becoming pretty rare these days.
I haven’t tried getting Winamp to work in Wine but there’s probably a guide out there somewhere! Good suggestion, thanks.
WineDB has it marked as silver.
Honestly, for a modern PC I can’t imagine Winamp is all that taxing of a program to run. I think the biggest bugbear will be its fairly tight integration with the Windows shell for file management and enqueuing things from an Explorer window, and maybe the external device integrations which would rely heavily on the Windows API and possibly WDM.
The video player in Winamp is also completely non-functional in Wine the last time I tried it, as it relies on DirectShow in Windows which has very iffy Wine support. That may also be why it’s marked as silver.
It’s too bad as I really liked using Winamp as a video player in Windows, despite it’s quirks.
I’d say that mpv also has a place near VLC when comes to playing everything.
However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I’m reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again
As you describe it, that is proprietary – no “might as well be” qualification necessary. Just because you can read the source code doesn’t make it Open Source; you’ve got to have all Four Freedoms for it to count.
the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software.
Is it not actually four or are they counting some of these as the same thing?
I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.
What was there not to understand? It was a basic music player with playlist functionality, a plugin infrastructure to support playback of pirated music in underground formats like MP3, at the price of completely free and no ads (the website had banners but not the player).
Not sure what I could have expected from it back then. I just recall it being recommended online and ended up just using Win Media player (with the cool graphical effects).
Milkdrop is in Kodi these days, so my winamp love affair is more nostalgic than anything real
Llolma
