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    Makes me kinda wish that when defederating you could select a one word label for why. Like a fixed list with several options like pedo, spam, harassment, abandoned, etc and a default of other. Make it a bit easier with a big list like this to say, oh 1000 of these 1400 all selected “racism” when defederating so it’s probably very racist and I should also defederate. But if it’s a lot of “other” or inconsistent reasons maybe I should spend a bit of time digging.

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        db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is one cool dude. Their fingerprints are all over Lemmy in an obviously much needed manner. I’m glad I joined their instance.

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          Agreed! I’m really appreciative of folks putting this kind of work into Lemmy.

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        What does “altfedi” mean? And what content is illegal in Germany and Czechia?

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        What’s up with all the pedo instances? Why are they creating instances in an open web? Are they dumb or something? It sounds to me that just registering the domain names of some of those could be considered a crime, nevermind openly inviting and hosting CSAM.

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          It’s not a crime as long as they don’t post the actual content, I guess

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          Honeypots and also to discourage people from engaging to corral people into big tech where surveillance is #1

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        What does kiwifarm mean?

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          Here’s the beginning of the Wikipedia article:

          Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxxing and real-life harassment.

          So, it’s an assholefarm.

          Although the name originated with one particular site, it looks like the name now applies to any site that serves a similar purpose. Bleah.

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        As an instance owner, thank you. Going to use this a lot

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        Sooooo much CSAM and lolicon on there. Disgusting. One question tho, what does “map” mean in this context?

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          “Minor attracted person” the whitewashed version of the word pedophile.

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    The name “cum.salon” just kills me

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      freespeechextremist

      freecumextremist

      got me

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        Sound like fed honeypots to me

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        The fact that it is a registered domain is just class.

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          Are domain name approvals nowadays fully automated or are there still people looking over them?

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            There’s probably automated checks for certain words that a person might have to look at but it’s likely all automated.

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    This is a real rogues gallery of internet. And a soccer team from Detroit. What the fuck did those guys do?

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      Enjoy soccer - the most heinous of social crimes

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        Best sport in the world. Football is more than just FIFA etc, you know? Getting children to play and have fun is good. Me and my friends playing football is also good. But yeah, just boil everything down to how corps fuck things up.

        Lol why the f do I get downvoted for this.

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          No sir, the best sport in the world is chess! Purely deterministic!

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          You sound like a heinous soccer player.

          Go kick a ball somewhere.

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      As someone from Detroit, I checked out the link for that instance, and uhhhh I wish I hadn’t.

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        Yeah, I did the same. I was thinking, “cool, an instance close to home Oh God no No no no”

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          What was it? This list really piques my curiosity but I know it’s better not to look.

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    Jesus one is just called pedo school. What the actual fuck

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      How to spot a honey pot 101

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      The internet. It’s a fucked up place. Nothing like what the big players on the internet would have you believe.

      So long as there exists a way for people to not get prosecuted, these things will exist.

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        Realistically, the more accessible the internet becomes the more it reflects the behavior of humanity at large.

        These things exist because they’re part of us. The internet probably makes them more visible, but I doubt it makes them more extant.

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    Where/how is this obtained?

    I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

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      Where/how is this obtained?

      I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

      fba.ryona.agency

      Be aware that it doesn’t track when lemmy instances defederate from other fediverse instances correctly and hasn’t for months, and that it’s run someone from one of those 50 defederated instances.

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    seal.cafe, cawfee.club and sleepy.cafe sure got welcoming names. Given the number of defederations, I doubt the contents are anything like the names.

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      Most of them were automatically defederated for not having adequate protection against bot signups, that got nothing to do with sketchy content.

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        As someone interested in both sides of security game theory, what exactly helps stop bots? I grew up playing RuneScape and hating bots before making r/Artisanvideos and hating them even more. I’ve always wondered if it’s a matter of automatically detecting precise repetitive patterns or just specific giveaway signs.

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        If the bots are welcomed and they don’t have good enough moderation, this is just sketchy content with extra steps.

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    Some of these im Curious about. Presumably the names are dog whistles (when they’re not just openly stating their purpose) But IDK the whistle so I’m curious af.

    Not curious enough to get put on some list by actually checking them out though lol

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      “cum.salon” sounds thrilling. I both want it to be exactly what it says it is, but also, something completely different.

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        I have no idea what lolicon is

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          Hentai depicting prepubescent girls. That shit is highly illegal in the UK, Switzerland and some US states and is punished as severely as CSAM.

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        Free cum extremist?!? Porn and radical political views in the same place? I’m intrigued!

        I’m honestly most curious about wolfgirl because that just sounds like furry shit, but nobody hates furries that much, so what dog whistle am I missing???

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          Wolfgirl: feed is broken, or possibly just denied until you login. Don’t care enough to make an account. About page:

          It’s not a war crime if you had fun doing it.
          I reserve the right to bully you in any way my administration powers allow, or just normally.

          Eh.

          FCE: broken, 50/50 chance of malware, meh.

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        Oh those hate sites are very closely moderated. They know exactly what kind of content they want on there and anything else gets the boot.

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      try ’em out with Tor – get onto a federal list and an NSA list at the same time

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    If the FBI are on here, they’d better work harder

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      Maybe its their instances and those are honeypots

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        Maybe its their instances and those are just the way they are

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        Apparently it is rather easy to gather personal data as an instance owner, so it really makes you wonder.

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          That’s actually pretty concerning, however my mantra is that anything with bad optics just stays in my head. Nobody can gather what I won’t say!

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    What was iddqd? My guess is gore, but not interested to check.

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        Looks like it’s just following the pattern of racist shitheads cooping cool shit and being shitty about them. Like Pepe, the Punisher, and now this one’s using Doom.

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      From the site:

      IDDQD: Instance For /vr/, /tg/, /g/, etc.

      In other words an offshoot of 4chan’s gaming-related boards (vg - Retro Gaming, tg - Traditional Gaming, g - Gaming). Unfortunately it’s 4chan, so

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        /g/ is the technology board, not gaming

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          Agh, right, so you are.

          Larger point still stands though.

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        IDDQD is a cheat for the original Doom, as a random fun-fact. God mode, iirc.

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      I was.

      It is basically a bunch of low quality shitposts between 3 people.

      Disappointing.

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    I’ve never heard of any of these.

    Awesome

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      Sees a bunch of “freeze speech” including “freespeechextremist”- lol the classic

      Sees “freecumextremist”- oh no, the classic!

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    Surprised Gab isn’t the record holder, it was the big deal example the fediverse advocates held up as how awesome the fediverse is at moderating itself, especially the “defed if federated with” rule instances started using to actually quarantine the users from Gab

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    Newbie question here What’s the difference between federated and de-federated?

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      Federated means that any instance that is federated with them receives their content and can bee seen on that instance.

      Defederated means they are not federated anymore, thus blocking both users and content.

      It’s usually done to combat content you don’t want on your instance

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        Ok ok So me using Lemmy.world is a specific instance of Lemmy, so it’s almost like its own server? And other instances (maybe lemmy.unitiedstates?) is its own federated instance likely related to just U.S. posts and it can communicate with other instances? Do de-federated instances have no other communication with instances?

        Apologies if these are silly, I feel like a dum dum because everyone else seems to grasp this except me.

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      Defederated means that the server has been forbidden from connecting and communicating with specific other servers that have decided to defederate with it, so users from the server can’t see or interact with users and posts on the server that defederated it and vice versa. Hopefully I was clear and coincise.

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      So you need to look at the number of de federations. That is basically how many other instances have blocked them and do not receive content from them to their feed. You can still go to all these instances using their respective urls and see what they are like. The reasons for blocking them vary depending on the instance. Edit: They can still be federated with other instances that don’t block them creating their own little fediverse bubbles.

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    Not aware of any of these, which is nice, but iddqd caught my eye since that’s a Doom reference! Overall I always thought the Doom community was pretty positive (at least going by Doomworld forums, and various Doom streamers, as I remember them). I thought surely it must be some misunderstanding! Oh maybe they didn’t reply quickly enough to take down some drive-by hate speech, but that was it.

    Anyway, holy shit, do not go to that lemmy instance. It’s rotten to the core. I’m going to go take a shower and play through Episode 1 to cleanse myself now.

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      The Doom fandom will always have the dark shadow of the Columbine High School deaths in its history. So shitty people using Doom to be shitty people isn’t that far from the mark. Nothing will ever change that, sorry.

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      It’s pretty standard 4chan-NEET fare, for anyone who is wondering. Racism, homophobia, xenophobia, trad wives, and quasi-pro-nazi shit.

      Not worth your time to check out. Small community of sad nerds.

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        4chan wasn’t like that before 2015. Well, except for the racism part. It was leftish/libertarian.

        It’s also the easiest “social media” platform to game. You don’t have to make up a history for each user. You don’t have to get upvoted. You don’t even really need to make sense.

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          And to think, the Q shit started on these sites.

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          Hell way back in the day, 4chan was one of my go-to websites, before the joking and trolling on /b/ really wasn’t joking and trolling any more.

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            Back before people who weren’t joking started to join in

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              Right. The really early oughts, when trolling was still a real thing, were so radically different that it’s hard to explain to people these days

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      iddqd was a well known cheat code from the era, not exactly obscure if not contemporary.

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    Why was Alex Gleason defederated?

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      I think he was employed by truth social for a while, and it might have been just because of his prior involvement as a programmer. But could be wrong about him working there or wrong about that being the reason.