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    If someone says they have nothing to hide, I ask if they also leave the door open when they use a public rest room.

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      Yeah or tell them you need to look at all of their emails and texts right now. Will also need to listen to recordings of every phone call they’ve ever made.

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        You can just do a foia request for that. Just put in very specific language, like “any and all communications containing the words “nr" "ft” “r****d”” and that will get them paranoid af.

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      If they’re in the USA they don’t need to.

      There’s gaps all around the edges that a small child can fit through.

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      The right wing (small government? Don’t look into things that aren’t your business?) Would like to require genital checks before bathroom usage, but only for a certain "type"of person.

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    I like how this is a screenshot on Lemmy of a Tumblr reblog, which is screenshotting reddit.

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    It’s not illegal to monitor someone’s smart water meter as it’s not encrypted. You can tell whenever they shower or go to the bathroom and then send them a log of their activity. It’s not illegal

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      Do you have a hobby of collecting restraining orders?

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        You can’t get a restraining order unless the person threatens you. It’s also not stalking under my states law.

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            Incredible way to reply “sus”.

            Wondered where that was from:

            In Transformers: Age of Extinction, a 20 year old man shows the father of a 17 year old girl a laminated card of a Texas State law to justify him being in a sexual relationship with the 17 year old girl. This actually happens in the movie.

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          Always wondered what stalking actually was - I mean paparazzi seem legally well protected.

          A new (June 2023) US Supreme Court “standard essentially brushes a street protester with the same stroke as a persistent obsessive who subjects someone to intense and long-term technologically enabled abuse. Oof.

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      I’m not sure this is true That’s like saying it’s OK to enter someone else’s house because they accidentally left the door open. Just because it isn’t encrypted doesn’t mean it’s meant for you to listen to.

      Edit: I was under the impression that most smart meters used 4G (at least in the US) Pretty sure it’s illegal to listen to cell communications.

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        They use an open frequency, not the cell network. You can use an inexpensive rtl-sdr to monitor them. People do it all the time to integrate their meter with home assistant.

        It’s no different than looking at someone’s WiFi network name.

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        Actually wire tapping is illegal but listening to radio frequencies isn’t. Go figure.

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      Better yet, sell their showering activities to shower head manufacturers, and the NSA. Idk why the NSA wants to know when you shower, but I guarantee they do.

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        The NSA is more bothered about the frequency of your showering.

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      I think your understanding of the law is sadly lacking and would definitely get you arrested.

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        If it’s an open radio signal then it’s not illegal to listen to it. It’s no different than a radio station.

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          Potentially not, but if you do that + send them a log of your activity then you’ve absolutely opened yourself up to an investigation.

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            Investigation of what exactly? There’s nothing illegal about it if you don’t make any threats. You could follow someone around and take pictures and notes on them too, not illegal.

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              Text messages: Written or typed messages sent electronically, typically via mobile phones or other digital devices.

              Voicemails: Recorded audio messages left on voicemail systems or digital recording devices.

              Videos: Visual recordings, either in the form of video clips or other visual media, capturing incidents related to the stalking.

              Cards, photos, or letters: Physical or digital materials like greeting cards, photographs, or written correspondences that may have been sent by the stalker.

              Unwanted gifts or items: Physical objects or digital transfers of items that were given to the victim without their consent or desire.

              Social media friend requests or following: Instances where the stalker attempted to connect with or monitor the victim through social media platforms.

              Emails: Digital messages sent through electronic mail services, often containing relevant information or threats.

              This is just a list of information I found on what counts as evidence stalking.

              Do whatever you want dude, good luck. Lemme know how it goes!

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                The rule are different for public figures. They’re not allowed to retaliate for public participation.

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          Yeah – I think you are wildly wrong about that.

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      Not me. That film was crap.

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          I watched it. Bored the crap out of me.

          But the question is in the present tense, and I can definitely say I don’t watch it again.

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            It was a mistake to have Dr Manhattan not glow. Without the glow he just looks like a guy painted blue, he looked amazing in his debut when he glowed.

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            Dunno if this was a dig at the show, but as a fan of the original graphic novel, I thought it was great.

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    Until I start getting paid for my data being used for profit of others then my privacy is a form of self value preservation.

    And I’ll look out my blinds at you if I want.

    I’ll take photos, say hi sometimes and wish you a good day. Welcome to a planet full of living creatures.

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      Watching people on the street in public is very different to staring into someone’s house – their private residence.

      Or would you be happy with someone standing in front of your house, taking pictures of everything you do in your front room?

      If you saw someone doing that, wouldn’t you be tempted to close the blinds?

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      No, no, he had it right the first time: the sorts of people who want to look in your windows really do want to reign, like an autocrat.

      .

      (I’m just riffing off your comment to make a point. I don’t actually think the person was that clever and agree it was a typo.)

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        I thought it was “free reign” but reign as in the way you reign a horse – you give your horse “free reign” to do as it wishes.

        EDIT : huh. Turns out I am right, but you “rein” a horse not “reign”. Derp!

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          That’s still rein.

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            (grin) Yeah – I realised that after I wrote it.

            As unbelievable as it sounds I had only ever heard it said – I’d never seen it written down. (Or if I have I don’t remember seeing it written down – must have been twenty, thirty years ago.) I am not a horse person, so I don’t deal with vocab relating to horses all that often.

            Just one of those things I guess.

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      I thought it was free rain, like the water falling from the sky.

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            Already illegal in certain jurisdictions to collect rainwater on your own property (with a goal of protecting aquifers IIRC)!

            Looking into it, perhaps 15 states regulate it but I’m not sure any have outright bans anymore - plenty of states encourage it.

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    Nah, it’s a fetish. Don’t be kink-shaming now!

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      The difference between a kink and a crime is consent.

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        Well now you’re just complicating things. But it’s ok, that’s a kink too.

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          So you’re saying that Avril Lavigne’s breakthrough hit was about kink shaming? 🤔

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            Oh yeah. Definitely. Gotta follow your kinks or you’ll miss out on one of the better things life has to offer.

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              Waityou’re saying that her kink is kink shaming? This is getting awfully complicated

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                No, no. It’s even more complicated than that. Her kink is kink shaming kink shaming

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      Voyeurs and exhibitionists: name a more iconic duo.

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    I love this clipping. I can’t use it since it’s got a comma splice, and I can’t promote that.

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      Upvote for comma splice hatred.

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    I have neighbors who I swear want passersby to look. Every window is open, the front door is left open and every light is on in the house.

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      When I was a young adult we started getting concerned about the number of cameras popping up everywhere. Then some news story ran that said an average person is filmed around 20 times throughout the course of their day. We all found that to be horrifying. Now that number is probably several thousand times per day, and people do not fucking care. It doesn’t make sense to me. I care, but I’m made to feel like a weirdo if I ever say that.

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        CCTV cameras have somewhat of a different connotation though. They are in a public space, no one’s pointing a camera into your front room, they are looking at streets and roads.

        I used to actually watch CCTV as a job (stupidly boring) trust me no one looks at that footage. They just have an algorithm that pulls up anything it deems relevant, and possibly AI now, then a human looks at that relevant 30 seconds of footage or whatever. Unless the monitoring systems flag something up, there is virtually zero chance anyone is going to have a look at it.

        In theory I could have used the cameras to watch a single person but in practice there are monitoring logs someone would have noticed what I was doing and called me out on it. Besides we were all far too busy watching the crows staring into the camera lens.

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    Just flat out ask them to take off all of their clothes, you can’t lose.

    Either they start to backtrack and realize that they do actually have boundaries, or things are about to get sexy. Either way, big win.

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