This sounds like a nice step towards modernizing texting, but it’s a shame that Messages doesn’t have an open RCS API to encourage broad adoption across messaging apps.

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    So Just like every other modern messaging app?

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      You could say the same for email.

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      As far as I can tell, Facebook Messenger has lost that feature.

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      will only hurt their attempts to make Apple interoperatethis will only hurt adoption on the long run.

      Any interoperating from Apple will be minimal and begrudging, at best. Google should not hold themselves/their tech and their users back for the distant hope that Apple will be cooperative (because Apple won’t regardless).

      That said, Google really should open up the API.

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          Ans yet Apple expects all others to to just accept what they want or Apple walls off everything. It goes both ways, Apple doesn’t get to control everything.

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              Have you looked into running your own RCS server or connecting to existing RCS servers? As far as I can tell, it’s proprietary infrastructure built on top of an open standard.

              RCS just lets the servers talk to each other, and there is no reference implementation for a server. On the off chance that you do manage to write your own implementation, it’s unlikely that Google or Samsung’s servers would be willing to talk to yours unless you’re a telecom.

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            They don’t expect (or often even allow) others to adopt their standards though, which is the point being made here.

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      The better solution is to move away from proprietary messaging apps altogether. Simplex Chat, Jami, Session and signal all support both Android and iOS.

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          Signal has third party apps like Molly. iMessage only works on Iphones and is utterly proprietary and locked down which makes it a bad option for most people.

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    How far back are they gonna allow? Like, I need to edit the evidence level or oops I misspelled that last message level?

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      Thirty minutes. So mostly misspelled words. Most implementations of this type of feature also have a small “Edited” flag.

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        Nah babe, I never said that, you must be tripping.

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    How about a proper backup system? I literally lost access to a group chat just because I changed phones. None of the RCS group chats migrated. Until, they fix the usability and reliability issues it will remain inferior with low usage.

    Plus, whose stupid idea was it to remove the auto sort groups in message organisation? I had tabs for OTP, banking, personal, promotion, chats separated; Which was much better than the default clusterfuck you call now.

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      Or the fact that even enabled, the rcs does not switch to SMS when rcs is magically unavailable. They just don’t send until legitimately 16 hrs later.

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    I don’t really care for Matrix but at least Matrix is a open standard.

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    Well there goes another reliable source of evidence. I’m hoping that we don’t end up making everything into discord where people can flat out brag about how they’re abusing kids in their basement and then delete when law enforcement comes around (Yes I actually saw that happen)