• SamsonSeinfelderEnglish
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    why do we say “black panther” if panthers are always black?

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      I guess because one is Pink

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      I think the mountain lion / cougar is sometimes called a panther, too. Like the Florida panther.

      The word is a little bit like raptor is used for some birds. It means big cat.

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          Oxford English Dictionary:

          panther | ˈpænθər | noun

          a leopard, especially a black one.

          • North American English a large American wild cat with a plain tawny to grayish coat, found from Canada to Patagonia. Also called cougar, mountain lion, puma

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      I’ve only ever called them Panthers. Black Panthers are a social/political group.

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          especially

          This implies that it’s more common for black furred leapords and jaguars to be called panthers, but other things can be called panthers too.

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            Isn’t the “especially” part an injection which could be left out, so essentially: “A panther is a large wild cat, [], with black fur”?

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              Genera are within families, not the other way around. Maybe read a book?

              Also: the genus Panthera consists of 5 big cats. The other two big cats that aren’t in Panthera are the cougar, which is also colloquially called a panther, and the cheetah.

              So, in fact, “panther” can refer to any big cat other than cheetahs.

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              Dude, you clearly know nothing about taxonomy or big cats. You just want to be pedantic, but you are flat out wrong

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            Oh no! You’re right. How dare I use a dictionary of all things to define words? What was I thinking. Of course your superior intellect could easily see through my charade. Whatever would we do without you around to point out our mistakes?

            Shut up.

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            Are you being an asshole about it? Oh wait I don’t need to look it up lol

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    You can see their spots in the sun

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    The Jaguar has a scientific name: the Panthera onca
    Originally, the jaguar inhabited from northern Argentine Patagonia to the southern United States. The threats affecting the feline include deforestation and habitat loss, hunting, and jaguar and other animal roadkill. Due to its wide geographical distribution, the same species is called by various names depending on the culture and region it inhabited: jaguar, el pintado, onça pintada, nahuel, American tiger, jaguar, balam, otorongo, among others.

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      “Don’t trust them new panthers over there

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    My university’s mascot was a panther. And while I was on student government we tried to pass a resolution that basically said that because we were at an institute of higher learning we shouldn’t have a mascot that empirically doesn’t exist.

    It didn’t get passed.

    What’s funnier to me is that they changed their mascot to essentially be a mountain lion. We have absolutely zero mountains anywhere near us.

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      Mountain lion only describes one type of habitat cougars live in, they have the widest distribution of all the big cats and live in a variety of habitats, including the Everglades swamp in Florida, in canyons, and in areas with a lot of scrubby brush they can ambush from.

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        Coney Island cougars are pretty chill if you give em a chopped cheese and a Newport

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    For anyone else interested, melanism does not exist in humans. So no

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    Can a panther be born from two black panthers and not be black? I don’t know about their habits, do they have prides and would that pride end up with mixed black panthers, Leopards, Jaguars in it? or do these get kicked out?

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      Lions are the only big cats that form prides (and interestingly have never been observed with melanism IIRC), other big cats are solitary except for the first year or two of their lives while learning from their mother. After they reach adulthood they’re all kicked out of mom’s territory. But within that one litter you can definitely have some spotted and some all black!

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        Do cheetahs not also pack together? Feel like I’ve seen pictures of them in groups.

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          AFAIK cheetahs only hang out in groups in the wild when it’s mom and her cubs learning to hunt, or adult males from the same litter may hang out together as adults.

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      Can a panther be born from two black panthers and not be black?

      Based on my rudimentary high-school knowledge of alleles, the answer would be “yes” for some jaguar pairings, with a 25% chance of getting a regular jaguar in those pairings. It wouldn’t be possible for leopards.

      I’m not an expert though so if I’m wrong feel free to correct me

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    I alredy knew that