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    Maybe at some point the Americans will get scared that the Chinese are actually making strides ahead of them in electrification and decarbonization to actually get unstuck from their idiotic culture war over fossil fuels.

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      America will stop trying to sell oil when it runs out of oil and not one second before, no matter the actual cost.

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        and will lash out for being behind for as long as they still have guns

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      Oh, Amerikans would sooner nuke themselves than even consider uncoupling themselves from fossil fuel. All Amerikans care about is “profit uber alles”; they’d rather choke to death on smog and fracking run-off than ever admit Chinese STEM is beating theirs by every conceivable metric.

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      Eh take news from China with a Giga size grain of salt.

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        I don’t know about this particular piece of news, but the insane expansion of HSR for example is no fake news.

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        As opposed to news from the united states, which is certified good and true and democratic

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            Are you old enough to remember how every single mainstream journalist promoted the Iraq war? (no, “maybe the war could be executed more competently” is still supporting the war) How about Libya?

            Isn’t it funny how the mainstream media just happens to align with the state department every on every single issue?

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              Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war. Just like they have criticised immigration policies, or approved them. Same with coal, same with the EPA neutering, same with the oil spills in the gulf. Same with the lack of proper aid and support when the lowlands flooded.

              Just because you ignore it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

              I’d be happy to adjust my opinion, should you provide similar journalism from china, about china.

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                Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war.

                Except none of them meaningfully oppose the gaza war. The closest thing to criticism you’ll hear from a mainstream source is how Netanyahu personally isn’t carrying out the war out humanely enough. Note that this is not actually opposition to the war, since it just calls for a return to the state of slow ethnic cleansing that spawned the war. They oppose the way and rate the settler colonialist ethnostate carries out ethnic cleansing, not the settler colonialist ethnostate whose national project requires ethnic cleansing.

                Just as in the Iraq war, nobody was saying “This is bad, and we should leave now, there’s a million people protesting it outside” until like 2006, when the plans to leave were already drawn up (a schedule Obama maintained).

                There was a million “The war is good, but it’s being done poorly” and later on “The war is bad, but we’re here and have to carry it out more competently”, but the idea of not pursuing the war was so toxic, republicans would accuse democrats of wanting to “cut and run” (in the same way they accuse democrats of being insufficiently supportive of Israel, despite literally going around congress to keep the weapons flowing).

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              are you old enough to remember tank man?

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                I’m old enough to have seen the video of him having a convo with the commander of the lead tank, and then leaving the situation unharmed.

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            “The more your media landscape criticizes it’s own government the less critically you can consume it”

            Lol

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                With a little self awareness you’d know that the context is the comment chain above and that it’s basically what youre saying llmao

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      It will take a new space race for that to happen.

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        The space race is on. That’s why Starship has been launching so much. Someone at the FAA must have finally realized that if SpaceX doesn’t go ahead at full SpaceX speed, we’re gonna see China take over space.

        They’ve got a space station and a rover on the moon. China will easily overtake us in space, has already in a few places.

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          and africa with that whole silk road thing

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            True. China is making rapid gains in territory and influence on Earth and Luna, and soon plans to expand its operations into the Belt.

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          And by “take over” you mean uselessly posture and dick waggle and colonialize in brand new space accords breaking ways.

          This is not something anyone is winning.

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            Oh yes, this is a competition, and someone is going to win it.

            There are lots of resources out there. Far more than here. Most of “the world” is out there. This is happening whether we like it or not.

            And all the “dick waggling” is steps on the path to it happening. Funny flesh images, homoerotic shaming, whatever this dick talk is about whenever space comes up, none of it changes the serious nature of what’s going on in space.

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              Lmao it would be more economical to colonize the ocean floor than space. Extracting resources from space isn’t happening any time soon, no amount of musks copium will fix that.

              The “serious nature” of what’s happening in space is an accelerating geopolitical posturing. Nothing any country is doing right now are the things they’d do if they seriously intended to settle space.

              If the intent of course was to show off military might, ruin the the space treaty for colonialization and imperialism, and attempt brinksmamship, well they are coincidentally working down the checklist!

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      Fossil fuels aren’t just a culture war. Energy is really important for people, including poor people.

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        Poor people also care about not dying from the effects of climate change.

        Poor people don’t care about the megaprofits of the oil, gas, and automotive industries.

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    To the best of my knowledge, this is the first commercially-funded (i.e., non-government) nuclear fusion reactor. Notable investors are MiHoYo (developers of Genshin Impact), Nio (Chinese EV company), and Sequoia Capital

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        Your claim is that MiHoYo, a gaming company responsible for Genshin Impact, is a government funded company?

        Okay then.

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          Yes.

          Also, they’re very obviously, as you have just pointed out, not just a gaming company.

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            MiHoYo Isn’t a gaming company? How do they make their money? Jesus Christ this is some tin foil hat conspiracy shit

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              Well, they’re funding a fusion reactor. I think that’s very solidly outside of making videogames.

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                It’s to fight the honkai when they start appearing in our universe. (Jokes aside, a company that needs to run a lot of servers would be interested in cheap energy.)

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                Google funds Calico, which studies aging. Thus, Google is an anti-aging company.

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                  If you’re trying to make the argument that google isn’t just a search engine, then I fully agree.

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            sigh

            Do you also think Nvidia is a government-funded company? Google? Pfizer? Your standard for government-funding makes literally zero sense.

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              I guess they do get bailed out a lot. Though, it’s not like Epic Games over here is making fusion reactors.

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                That’s from a lack of vision rather than anything else. Google is IIRC

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              They don’t; you’re wasting your time investigating the hypocrisy of Amerikan liberals. They’ll literally never once cop to it. I’ve been trying to get them to admit they’re hypocritical garbage for nearly a decade now, it literally never sticks. They don’t care whether or not their trains of thought are critically built, investigated, or even sound as far as personal integrity goes.

              They just want to do the bidding of their masters. Dogs, one and all.

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            From the wiki editor’s note in the last link:

            “In a company, an organization of the Communist Party of China shall be established to carry out the activities of the Party in accordance with the charter of the Communist Party of China. The company shall provide the necessary conditions for the activities of the Party organization.

            Sounds like something all companies must comply in China.

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          You think a company producing weeb games can’t do this at the behest of a totalitarian government?

          Okay then

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            Hey, please avoiding words like totalitarian and authoritarian. They’re often used to make a false equivalence between fascist and socialist projects.

            Horseshoe theory is ultimately rooted in holocaust trivialization.

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            Considering China can barely control their domestic EV industry from initiating a price war so aggressive they’ve effectively commoditized EVs Yes?

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          Have you been living under a rock? How do you think China works

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          $147000 is a lot of money to grant to three college kids with zero proven business record.

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      In your guys opinion, is that good or bad? Privately funded would mean proprietary & profit driven implementation for such a crucial technology (if successful). I personally don’t like it.

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        The CPC still maintains a lot of influence over companies even when they’re getting their funding from private industry as part of their “politics in command” strategy for controlling market forces. We’ll see how it plays out.

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          Yep, if they need to disappear a CEO, no matter how big, they can and have done so in the past.

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            i don’t know why you got a downvote, disappearinga CEO should be the most popular thing the ccp does

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              Not to an Amerikan cosplay-capitalist lmfao. (I call them cosplay-capitalists because not a one actually owns capital; they just lap at the scraps that fall on the low-quarters of the c-suites they worship.)

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        Any path that takes us to unlimited clean energy is the right one IMO. We could always do a little espionage and make our own domestic fusion drive eventually.

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        I don’t mind profit driven because I’m confident that free markets are good for everybody.

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      No??

      I’ve supported engineering at several privately funded nuclear fusion companies, though all of them, this Chinese company included, are building a product out of public school research.

      Off the top of my head there’s:

      • CFS
      • TAE technologies
      • Thea
      • Zap Energy

      And several more

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        Building, or built? Either way, maybe these companies will come out with a better design than Tokamak, but until then they’re literally just research ventures because the vast majority of investment at actually scaling fusion is happening for Tokamak tractors.

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          Built, physically operational reactors that operate as close to Q=1 as they can, with all the diagnostics included.

          The diagnostics are very important, as plasma instabilities have been, and continue to be, the critical issue preventing anything useful coming out of our decades of fusion reactor design. All these companies are sharing data on overcoming plasma instability issues, with multiple geometries aimed at evaluating how plasma responds to different inputs in different environments. We’re all trying to understand how to control and compress something far too hot to physically touch.

          @naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca scaling fusion isn’t a trivial problem, and saying it like it is indicates a lack of background knowledge. This isn’t a competition between companies (no matter what our CEOs suggest), as we in industry quietly all agree that any of us that cracks this unchains humanity from the solar system. Because government funding has unfortunately sucked so much ass, we’re sort of using private money to get the basic research done. We’d be so much farther ahead otherwise.

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    This is an article from a CCP operated tabloid Seriously?

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    In the image of the discharge you can clearly see that the device has no cladding. That means a discharge would be limited to a duration of a few seconds, otherwise the material ablated from the wall would lead to extreme heat losses of the plasma. Did they include a future vessel cladding to the plasma volume calculation in the article?

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      Good points and questions. First wall interaction is going to be an interesting problem for this team to work around.

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    It means it’s been commoditized, which is useful for obvious reasons

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      In what sense? They still have not achieved net power out.

      Also “q>10 new reactor by 2027

      🤣

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      Natural gas bad, but ccp good?

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        No idea what ccp is, but CPC is demonstrably good for the people of China. Anybody who can’t see that needs to stop guzzling propaganda.