• Flying Squid
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    The plan is caring for mentally ill people with psychiatric supervision, possibly medication and/or therapy, something our prison system doesn’t offer, not killing them. You’re doing the “I shot the dog because he was untrainable and killed chickens” Kristi Noem defense, except for killing people.

    • FiniteBanjo
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      Psychiatric Supervision, Medication, and Therapy don’t necessarily eliminate all suffering, and certainly have no guarantee of reform or a cure. Kristi Noem had a perfectly fine young animal capable of training by qualified owners of which many were likely available in her area, she instead chose to kill her dog. This is a great example of how outcomes with excess suffering are always worse and that many people are too mentally incompetent to weigh their options. If her dog were judged by a jury, it would have been acquitted.

      • Flying Squid
        22 months ago
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        Who gets to decide that people are too mentally ill to be kept alive and why is it up to them?

        • FiniteBanjo
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          A judge and jury of peers adhering to very strict legal definitions and sentencing guidelines written by a democratically elected congress, because after thousands of years that’s the best system we’ve ever developed to reduce harm and promote equality and wellbeing for the majority of people. It’s not one person deciding the fate of another, it’s all of us deciding the fate of individuals for the benefit of us all.

          • Flying Squid
            22 months ago
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            So people who have no actual expert knowledge of mental health or mental health treatment? And you want this congress to be responsible for deciding who lives and who dies?

            • FiniteBanjo
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              So you think Doctors should be allowed to decide who lives and who dies? I’m going to be honest, I have absolutely no idea how many doctors are on an average jury bench, but they’re pretty commonly used as character witness testimony.

              You seem to imply that I’m defending the actions of the state of Alabama when I’ve only ever been critical of them in this entire discussion.

              • Flying Squid
                12 months ago
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                No, I don’t think anyone should be allowed to decide who lives and who dies. I’m not sure why that isn’t clear to you yet.

                • FiniteBanjo
                  -32 months ago
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                  You’ve made it very clear that you think differently than I do, and you started this conversation by asking me to explain my thoughts which I did very clearly. Perhaps you’re projecting the confusion you feel.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    I believe you’ll find that you replied to my initial comment. So you would be the one who started this conversation. I didn’t make you respond to me.