• sunzu
      -68 days ago
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      median household US income is under 80K.

      even most major metros are still under 100k.

        • sunzu
          -58 days ago
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          it puts you into about 60-80% of the american households.

          middle class by default would be 40-60%

          “It’s barely middle class for most places now. is hyperbolic

          • Xaphanos
            78 days ago
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            That assumes a normal distribution. Wealth/income is not. An excellent resource is: Social Stratification in the United States: The American Profile Poster of Who Owns What, Who Makes How Much, and Who Works Where https://a.co/d/09LVTyYi

            • sunzu
              -28 days ago
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              “middle class” then has no meaning

              there are wage slaves and owners. i don’t need a book to see that, i live it.

            • sunzu
              -48 days ago
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              whatever a person thinks it is haha

              however, if we rely on something about more concrete than feelz like stats, it would be the middle of the population

              • SatansMaggotyCumFart
                48 days ago
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                If you relied on stats you’d see it’s $50-$150k a year so what I’m saying isn’t even hyperbole.

                • sunzu
                  -48 days ago
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                  between $100k to $150k a year wealthy.

                  It’s barely middle class for most places now.

                  This was the original statement

                  50-100k covers about 38% to 63%

                  this is the middle.

                  100-150k: 63%-79%

                  See Distribution of household income in 2022 according to US Census data

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

                  Expanding lower bound to 50k does indeed appear to cover the “middle class” but income above 100k is hardly “barely middle class” from statistical point of view.

                  • SatansMaggotyCumFart
                    27 days ago
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                    The definition of middle class in the US is $50k - $150k based on the last census.

                    Hence why I said and continue to repeat that $100k - $150k is not wealthy but barely middle class.

                    I’m not sure what or why you are arguing here.

          • orcrist
            27 days ago
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            I don’t think your definition of middle class is what most people use when they talk about it.

            This is really obvious if you think about people remarking on the death of the middle class. They’re not saying that the mean or the median doesn’t exist. They are saying that families like the Simpsons are much less common than they used to be.

            • sunzu
              -37 days ago
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              They are saying that families like the Simpsons are much less common than they used to be

              The fact that you are using a reference to corporate media to make your point gave me a chuckle lol

              This shit is weaved so deep into social fabric, we are fucked.