Yes, there’s more to it than that and it’s quite stupid and also quite bigoted. Republicans don’t need to know that. They didn’t and won’t read his book anyway.

  • zcd
    arrow-up
    91
    arrow-down
    0
    ·
    3 months ago
    link
    fedilink

    Which is totally fine right? Unless he belongs to some sort of extremist group that base their identity around intolerance, racism and homophobia but that’s just crazy talk! This guy could be the new VP!

    • bolexforsoup
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      3 months ago
      edit-2
      3 months ago
      link
      fedilink

      No it’s not fine because he is insinuating that it is a choice that can be logic’d into/out of

      • ImADifferentBirdEnglish
        arrow-up
        31
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        3 months ago
        edit-2
        3 months ago
        link
        fedilink

        I mean, for some people, it is. When you’re exploring your identity, you don’t always get it right on your first try. Just like there are people who are convinced they’re straight that are actually gay (or bi, or pan, or what have you). Though that is far more common, largely because of the societal pressures to conform to heteronormativity.

        But then, perhaps that truly is Vance’s case here. Maybe he actually is gay, and his whole everything is just him trying desperately to convince himself otherwise.

          • ImADifferentBirdEnglish
            arrow-up
            20
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago
            edit-2
            3 months ago
            link
            fedilink

            I’m aware of this, but again, people don’t always figure themselves out the first time. We are messy beasts.

            • halcyoncmdrEnglish
              arrow-up
              10
              arrow-down
              0
              ·
              3 months ago
              link
              fedilink

              Right, but the reason he’s saying this at all is to try and make the claim that it is a choice, and that he simply changed his choice. Not that he found his real self without societal pressure.

            • bolexforsoup
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              3 months ago
              edit-2
              3 months ago
              link
              fedilink

              OK but that is not the same thing as making a choice to be gay. That is the entire point. What he said insinuates that it is a choice.

              • ImADifferentBirdEnglish
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago
                link
                fedilink

                I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t doubt the facts of the story, even if I doubt the conclusion he reached.