Suggesting that a war should be waged against the democratically-elected government of the United States seems… Well, it seems kinda treason-y to me. Just a smidge.
Hey now, treason is very specifically defined in the constitution. Oh and yeah, that’s the constitutional definition. This is treason.
To be fair, we have been very lenient with traitors lately. To the surprise of no one, treason becomes increasingly popular.
This is why we should have met treason aggressively and swiftly from the beginning.
SCOTUS allows treason if it’s an official act peculiar only to Trump.
Republicans can have a little treason. As a treat.
You’ve heard of first treason, but what about second treason?
What’s treasons, precious?
Americans have been giving these folks too much rope. When will they start using the rope?
Perhaps Biden’s “official” act is rope-a-dope.
Should have done it his first month in office.
Trials for the January 6th crew? Should have been immediate, not taking 4+ years.
We’ve been very lenient with traitors since 1865.
Obligatory FUCK ANDREW JOHNSON.
To be fair, we have been very lenient with traitors lately.
Lately? We have been lenient since the last civil war!
Hey treason is when Democrats do anything I don’t like which means anything
Its only real treason if it comes from the Treasony region of France. Otherwise its just called being a rebel.
The Champagne virus is elusive.
bubbling rebel
I miss when that mattered…
Isn’t this sedition, not treason?
Technically yes, but it’s really just semantics and treason sounds sexier.
Yeah this kinda does seem like it might cross the line and be actionable
But you need either that person or two witnesses to admit to it in a court in order to convict.
Doing the definition of treason is AT LEAST treason-adjacent!
How to demonstrate that you are against democracy in one simple step.
I think Project 2025 is already enough proof. It’s longer than Mein Kampf for Marx’s sake
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof
The Trump presidency and the years since then have more than ever shown that the rules don’t apply to everyone equally.
And yet…
Spot the fuck on. This is Treason and nothing less. You know what Treason does and what’s done to it’s actor?
I guarantee you a week ago this dude was crying because “Biden’s rhetoric was too crazy and led to the Trump shooting”
(Despite the fact the Trump shooter was a conservatuve)
BREAKING: Fat white Ohio man wants others to do what he won’t do himself
So many armchair generals in this world.
The GOP army is going to need a vast fleet of lark scooters, albuterol inhalers and oxygen tanks
Where are the Republicans whining at him to “turn the temperature down?”
It’s all fun and games until someone shoots an ear and a semi-innocent bystander whose wife refuses condolences from the President due to undying (debatable) loyalty to a demagogue
Why are there no repercussions for shit like this? We’ve just given up holding them accountable, haven’t we.
To the point where nobody discussed at all that immunity for the President doesn’t apply if they don’t have a complicit Congress. We just take it as a given that no President will be impeached and removed for their actions, because no matter how unhinged Trump acts, Congress kowtows to him.
We’ll kick their asses again, just like we did in the War of Southern States Wanting to Keep Slaves.
As long as we have the presidency and military.
Civil war. Or submit to “Project 2025”-level insanity and Christian fascism. Those are the choices the cult gives us. They really are the American Taliban. Can’t wait to see their “chosen one” lose again.
Biden should give an executive order to lock this guy up for treason.
When people complain about that, point to the SCOTUS decision that the president can do whatever the fuck he wants without legal repercussions.
If any of the people who complain even vaguely hint at violence in reaction to this, give an order to lock them up for treason, too.
Keep this cycle going until the last grunt has understood that this type of behavior will not stand.
Once all the people willing to call for violence are locked up, use the same reasoning to disband the current SCOTUS and replace it with something that is not an embarrassment for a modern democracy, with a strong recommendation to immediately renounce the ruling that made all of that legal.
By the time the dust has settled Biden will be too old to be persecuted for any of that anyway.
I know none of this will happen, writing it out just as a happy little fantasy.
The problem (… a problem …) with this happy little fantasy is that Biden is old and timid and won’t rock the boat. We need forceful reaction and he’s just staying placidly in his lane.
I’m pretty sure Biden is living on borrowed time now. The only reason for him not to do whatever the hell he wants is to not affect Harris’ image.
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So you want to counter fascism with fascism?
Counter terrorism with law…sure. SCOTUS approved!
“We need a civil war” says man completely unprepared and unwilling to fight in one.
Man convinced he won’t be the first casualty of the war he’s calling for…
No he’ll be one of the last. The politicians hang at the end
Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor.
He should join Lemmy.
“Will there be armchairs for the leadership?” His first question.
Enough is enough. Shit like this is putting us on a path for another insurrection.
Here is a sample letter to provide George Lang, especially if you are an OH resident. George Lang contact form
subject: “Call for Resignation Due to Undemocratic Remarks”
Dear Senator Lang,
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding your recent comments about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. Your statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As a concerned citizen, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to your words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. Your statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of your comments, I call on you to resign from your position as a United States Senator. The responsibilities of your office require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. Your recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action you can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of your words and to take responsibility for them by resigning your seat.
Sincerely,
[Your First Name]
Additionally i encourage looking up your Senators and contacting them as well:
Subject: “Urgent: Call to Denounce Undemocratic Rhetoric and Advocate for Resignation”
Dear Senator [Senator’s Name],
I am writing to express my profound disappointment and concern regarding recent comments made by Senator George Lang about the potential need for a civil war if certain political outcomes are not achieved. His statement, “I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved,” is not only deeply irresponsible but also fundamentally undemocratic. Such rhetoric is dangerous and unbecoming of a public servant in a democratic society.
As your constituent, I am compelled to voice my strong objection to such words. They undermine the very principles upon which our nation was founded: the peaceful transition of power and the rule of law. Democracy thrives on debate, disagreement, and ultimately, the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections. The suggestion that violence is an acceptable response to losing an election is antithetical to these principles.
An apology for this grave error is simply not sufficient. The damage caused by promoting the idea of civil unrest as a solution to political disagreement cannot be undone with mere words of regret. His statement has the potential to incite division and violence, putting our nation and its citizens at risk.
In light of the seriousness of these comments, I call on you to take a stand against such rhetoric. I urge you to publicly denounce these remarks and advocate for Senator Lang’s resignation from his position. The responsibilities of a United States Senator require a commitment to uphold democratic values and to lead with integrity. His recent remarks have shown a disregard for these responsibilities, and as such, stepping down is the most honorable course of action he can take for the sake of our country’s stability and unity.
The United States faces numerous challenges that require thoughtful, collaborative solutions. It is imperative that our leaders prioritize dialogue and cooperation over divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I urge you to consider the impact of these words and to take a firm stand for democracy.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and to seeing our representatives uphold the values that make our country strong.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
Make sure to send to both senators, regardless of their party.
Done
tried to, but it said “server not found”
Odd. Works for me. Might be either your connection or a regional server issue
Guys, if you gonna do this civil war thing again, this time finish the job and make sure that those southern traitors never fuck with your country again. It’s bad for my blood pressure seeing how those nazi fucks believe they have a right to exist.
Ohio is in the North.
As an Ohioan, anything outside of the major metros is basically the south.
This is the biggest misconception about the South. Not just Ohio, anywhere you go ~30 minutes outside of any metro area and you hit “the South.” Even in Canada, these days.
I will never get over the absurdity of seeing a Confederate flag on a house in Ohio.
I will never get over the absurdity of seeing a Confederate flag
I saw one in West Virginia when I was back visiting my mother several years ago. My head almost spun 360 degrees, Exorcist style.
We’re the quintessential north and we best not let our statesfolk forget it. The traitors rag defiles our state of freedom. But yes it defiles a large portion of our rural areas.
Some parts of it are…
What does finishing the job look like?
Edit: I don’t understand the downvotes, just a non American asking a genuine question.
What should have happened after the first civil war, occupation of their lands and dismantling of their elected officials. No one who supported the traitors would ever be allowed in government again.
proper reconstruction
Right? Education, healthcare, equality. Give them what they fear most.
Like actually putting the Confederate leadership on trial with consequences such as jail or hanging for treason as Repubs suggest. Nuremburg Trial stuff instead of this garbage.
For the original civil war there was actual geographic separation. Now they can only win through gerrymandering so I’m not sure how they envision the logistics of such a war playing out. Seems more like you would have to resort to what most people would call domestic terrorism.
Seems more like you would have to resort to what most people would call domestic terrorism.
Conservatives: Hold my beer.
https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/11def324-783c-4a85-accf-71b8fb850e73.jpeg
I think traitors to our country need to start being
hunghanged, publicly.Edit: Not like curtains.
*Hanged 🙂
Unless those traitors are e.g. a painting or curtains.
Or are well-endowed.
Both hung and hanged are OK
They are on this guy.
TIL lol, ty.
I didn’t know lions hung curtains. /s
“I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country, and it will be saved.”
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/629d218a-dc27-4453-8d7f-0b4b42bc869a.jpeg
Homie was from Ohio too. Wouldn’t even half ti march halfway across the country.
Yeah him and his home town are probably ashamed of each other these days.
March to the CVS Pharmacy to quell this one.
Yep. Ohio is full of Union troops. Although so are the other 49 states.
