https://xcancel.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660
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JULY 25, 2024
Statement by Vice President Kamala Harris
Yesterday, at Union Station in Washington, D.C. we saw despicable acts by unpatriotic protestors and dangerous hate-fueled rhetoric.
I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews. Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation.
I condemn the burning of the American flag. That flag is a symbol of our highest ideals as a nation and represents the promise of America. It should never be desecrated in that way.
I support the right to peacefully protest, but let’s be clear: Antisemitism, hate and violence of any kind have no place in our nation.
Omfg
If we’re actually taking about pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric, this is not an unreasonable statement. I didn’t see the protests myself, but it is possible that what she’s trying to say was that a portion of the protestors went beyond support for Palestine to actively support Hamas. If that’s the case, denouncing sympathizers of a terrorist organization, as distinct from sympathizers of Palestinians as a whole, is a valid position.
If she’s just broadly painting all anti-genocide protesters as pro-Hamas, that’s fucked. And if she’s not, she could have been a bit more explicit about it.
But the first interpretation is certainly plausible, so I won’t jump to conclusions just yet. Would definitely like to see some clarification from her.
You know what, nah. Fuck you Kamala, I’m writing in a socialist.
Had my vote for about 3 seconds.
Fuck the two party system, voting for either side is feeding the regime.
Condemning a country for carrying out a genocide ≠ antisemitism. God I’m tired of doublespeak always winning.
Daily reminder that ACAB.
FUCK
Please don’t post pictures of screenshots. Copy and paste the text.
Sorry, I’ll edit the body with it.
Common Kopala L.
So she lasted how many days before disappointing me? Four.
Why are you disappointed that she’s speaking up against anti Semitism?
I don’t believe that you’re asking in good faith. And if you are, you’re fucking stupid. Fuck you.
I guess it’s easier to say fuck you than to answer a question while facing the hypocrisy of your view of the world
Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism, no matter how much western politicians like Kamala want to conflate the two.
To be fair, this was already her modus operandi, she just has the spotlight for it now.
How did calling out violent protests disappoint you? Because she’s not supporting Israel or pushing down Palestine.
Another useful idiot.
where was the violence? burning flags is not violence. burning effigies of genocidal monsters is not violence. tagging graffiti and spraypainting a replica of the liberty bell is not violence. there weren’t any “violent” protests.
She’s going for that undecided vote. She figures everyone that fears Trump will vote for her regardless (not an outrageous idea) so she needs to secure all the right-leaning individuals that know trump is a psychopath.
Politicians gonna politics.
There is no undecided vote, Kamala is competing with leftists who are abstaining or voting third party. Nobody on Trump’s camp would vote for Kamala ever anyways, so if she pulled left she would get more voters, not lose them.
The DNC is fine with losing, though, so she won’t.
She’s not chasing voters at all, she’s chasing donors. She’s also apparently whispering sweet nothings to Wall Street about firing Lina Kahn.
Burning the flag is protected speech. Dont want to see it burned? Make the country less shitty
I’m finna burn me a flag tomorrow. Hell, they’re cheap enough I could probs burn one a day all the way up to the election
It’s true. Condemning burning the American flag is a just another form of covering your eyes or ears because you don’t like what people are saying. We should both strive to improve our country, listen to protestors, and live up to the American ideals of freedom.
The country that also is still trying to eliminate its indigenous peoples has no “ideals” to live up to.
I highly recommend reading Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz - an indigenous people’s history of the US.
Wdym? Aren’t we living up to our nation’s ideals of genocide? /s
Another point: Don’t want it burned? Make a better looking flag
If it’s already charred looking, no one can even tell it’s been burned!
She cars more about US flagg being burned than Palestinians being killed.
🤡🤡🤡
Fuck you, Kamala.
God damnit stop supporting genocide too. Don’t be antisemitic but also genocide is bad too
How is calling out violence protests supporting genocide?
She’s not pushing down Palestine or pushing Israel up.
I am as confused as you are by this comment section. She’s also given statements that are anti-genocide as well. You can be opposed to multiple shitty things.
that sucks; i guess i’m not voting for kamala either.
It’s okay. You weren’t planning on voting for a Democrat anyways. Don’t kid yourself bro.
You and your two braincells can go pound sand.
for 4 days tried to trick myself into being a clueless voter like you so i can vote for kamala; but it turns out suffering at the hands of democrats and republics for 5 decades won’t let me.
Who are you voting for?
i haven’t figured that out yet.
kamala if she comes more strongly against the genocide; west or stein if she doesn’t.
Geez, people here really need to learn what the downvote button is for. I can’t see any reason why this statement would deserve a downvote
lemmy.world if full of shitlibs and; since they’re the biggest instance in this marxist/leninist social media network; downvotes should be expected.
Frankly it’s past time for the leftist instances to defederate from .world. They’ve made it clear what they support over there.
i like it the way it is now; we can see the them, but they can’t see us.
Things will be certifiably worse if you don’t.
all of our presidents have been enacting almost 75% project 2025 recommendations since 1980 and they will continue to do so whether or not it’s kamala doing so.
So much better than the other guy, though. Writing in a candidate will be fun for some people, but I’m choosing to vote for someone who 1) can win and 2) won’t strip away freedoms in the name of religion.
Democrats seem very eager to re-elect blue-flavored genocide. I’m very glad you feel so excited about her chances to win. I think the Palestinian children getting headshot by Israelis will be overjoyed to hear about the freedoms you will enjoy.
Isn’t that going to happen regardless of who is put into office?
Correct our regime supports this genocide.
Gaza residents will be exterminated but we don’t have to feed two party system.
What does it mean to feed the system? Participate in it? Are there reasonable alternatives?
Voting for either party provide the regime legitimacy.
Voting 3p is a denying them legitimacy
Okay, so participating in the system is feeding it. I understand your point, but it feels like you’re completely dismissing the momentum our current system has. I don’t think slowing it down is a possibility right now, especially since the mechanisms in place specifically prevent extreme policy changes from one administration to the next–namely, our country’s 70+ years of hard-line support for Israel–so the next reasonable step to take is to steer it in a better direction.
Unfortunately, the majority of people are already steering either right or left. Refusing to engage or trying to push this massive machine in a less popular direction is, for now, like screaming into the void. So, I push with the others, hoping to create breathing room until we can change the way we do things and allow for better political representation in our democracy.
So, I push with the others
50% right, 50% left nothing is done.
I am breaking the tie. Clearly doing the two party circle jerk aint doing shit for anyone who works for money.
It’s a travesty, but after a cease fire is drafted and world news starts covering something else, we’re still stuck with whoever is president. I’ve never voted based on one single issue. There’s lots of stuff to consider.
Fucking hope this site is in no way representative of the voting population, because Jesus Christ.
That, or all the “I’m totally a progressive that suddenly learned about Gaza last week and refuse to vote for Biden because of it” astroturfing is shifting their gears to Harris.
They were looking for a new unified attack vector, and then she went and said this and they realized they could just keep doing the same old tired shit.
Reminder: if you give a single shit about Palestine or the people who live there, you will do everything you can to prevent Trump and down ballot Republicans from winning. At all costs.
If you can’t see the forest for the trees, you’re gonna find out real quick what happens in Gaza when Trump wins. Assuming you actually give a shit about those people and aren’t just using them as political pawns to try to change the sentiment regarding Kamala Harris.
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Dead on with that.
Great job justifying your vote for a pro-genocide candidate! You used a lot of words and did a nice whataboutism on Trump instead of focusing on how she’s going to continue to support Israel no matter what they do just like Joe did. 🚩
I want to print this out and shove it in the face of someone I know.
Whataboutism adds nothing to the conversation and fails to address the criticism being discussed.
There’s people in this thread saying “well then I’m gonna write in a socialist”
This isn’t whataboutism, this is actual existential threat to this country and the stability of all the countries we send our military to. Kamala Harris’ comments on the anti-genocide protest are wholly unacceptable and present the overall message as Pro-HAMAS, which it distinctly isn’t, but we do still have to think about which piece of shit benefits most from writing in someone who cannot win in a first past the post election
The US hasn’t had democracy for at least 40 years. The owner class decide who we are allowed to elect (the money filter). The elected enact the policies that the owner class want.
Here is a tweet from Bernie from today:
Lina Khan, Chair of the FTC, pushed to get the non-compete agreement ban passed. Reid Hoffman is the Dem’s version of Peter Thiel. He paid Harris $7 million so she will fire Khan and reinstate non-compete agreements once elected.
Results from a 2014 Princeton study that took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys over a 20 year span and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law.
“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
Direct link to the study: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
The corporate duopoly bought and paid for the government a long time ago. The only solution is a united front based along class lines (working class vs owner class). Everything else is a distraction.
40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy
Most of the population doesn’t live in a swing state
oh ok sorry
Well I agree with the last paragraph anyway…
There’s a decades-long history of Zionists conflating Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism, which is what Harris is tranparently doing here.
“Oppose Israel’s settler colonial conquest of Palestine? You must be anti-semitic.”
Also violent struggle against colonialism is necessary and justified, unless you want to adopt the Gandian pacifist strategy of doing your enemy’s job for them:
