I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you’ve ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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    I’ve literally never worked at a company where HR advocates for the workers. In 20 years, I haven’t seen it happen a single time.

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      The HR team at the company I work for absolutely advocates for me and my coworkers. Their job is to protect the company’s interests and the workers being empowered is in line with the company’s interests. A close friend and coworker had a PM try to deny her benefits (both PTO and insurance) and HR stepped in on her behalf and forced the company to give her what she was owed. The HR team is always available to answer questions about how insurance works and how to plan for retirement, plus they go out of their way to host a yearly Christmas party and other major events. The companies you worked at might have had bad HR teams, but that doesn’t mean every HR team is bad.

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        HR is to prevent liability, not to protect or advocate for workers. Sometimes those lines end up crossing, but it’s not the job of HR.

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          How about you let them tel you how HR is at the the place they work for since you have no idea who they are or where they work.

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            Nah I don’t need to. I work with HR all the time. I know what they’re about.

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              So tell me how the HR where they work at actually handled things since you’ve worked with them. Actually, first: state the name of the company they work at so I can check your work.

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                You’re not my boss, you can’t tell me what to do. I need my union rep present for this if you want to continue this discussion further.

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        This totally goes against what people want to believe. It’s not being downvoted because it’s untrue, it’s being downvoted because the kids don’t like it.

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          You can paint a pig and call it your lover if you want but I know a pig when I see one.

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            And you can use anecdotal references to paint the real world however you want it you look, but I know reality when I see it.