How are they retaining staff?

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    They won’t. They’ll just substitute them. The idea is trying to force every company do the same thing, as making people work locally makes them more dependent on their local company and less likely to jump to a better job.

    Then you can lower salaries (not rise them) and destroy benefits. Also you can enforce dress codes to make it look like a dictatorship country like North Korea.

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      Amazon is kinda known for burn and churn. They like have the appearance of a good place to work by not having a dress code, letting people bring dogs in, and being the kind of place that has beer on tap. None of it is worth the burnout though

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        You know, at some point, you gotta assume they’ll eventually hire and fire/lose all the usable talent they have access to, and shit like this will prevent them finding new talent. Until some exec “invents” WFH as a perk

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          you gotta assume they’ll eventually hire and fire/lose all the usable talent

          I’d like to think that, but Amazon has the benefit (at least in the US) of operating in a country where most people need 2-3 jobs in order to live, so it’s either churn-and-burn or starve.

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              Yeah, it is.

              Could even get Trump reelected in a few months. Super bleak.

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                Odds I’ve been hearing for Trump being re-elected are about 3.4 to 1.

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            The thing about an operation as big as Amazon is that one or two people work on one component of one thing. If the folks who work on that one thing both bail, it doesn’t slow down Amazon or any of its constituent components overmuch. The way things are architected it can chug along for quite a while until somebody else is tasked with learning about and maintaining it.

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          They tend to hire a lot of recent graduates, at least when I was there. People that simply don’t know better.

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          Nah. So long they remain the largest comoanies in tech, the FAANG companies have an endless buffet of overconfident and naive new grads to feast on. Entitled kids who will excitedly walk through the door and proudly display their comoany golf shirts to anyone they can trap in a corner while explaining how they’re remaking and reinventing ways to squeeze and manipulate customers in the name of shareholder value.

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            This is, unfortunately, true. The kids of some family friends are trying in the worst way to get in at Amazon or Facebook to make their bones. They figure that they can build their brands by surviving there for four or five years (Amazon’s reputation for burning through people like toilet paper at Wing Wars is well known in the tech industry, and respected), sock money away because they still live at home, and get a jump on the good life.

            I can’t tell 'em what to do. They asked for my advice and gave it. What they do is their problem.

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          Harder on the corporate side, but this has been an issue in the warehouses.