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    What is ‘enough’ exposure to diesel fumes?

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      Enough to be harmful. Humans get exposed to dangerous things every single day, even if you don’t leave the house, it’s just in a quantity to not effect you during a human lifespan.

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          It’s 2 decades old so I hope the US has gotten better busses in the meantime because modern busses don’t have this issue:

          “The study showed that a child riding inside a diesel school bus may be exposed to as much as 4 times the level of diesel exhaust as someone riding in a car ahead of it.

          The level of harm in that study was around 30 potential extra cases of cancer per million kids, that is fairly low considering the harm added by just general exhaust fumes for those living near busy roads. Even the study itself shows that living near a road frequented by trucks is more harmful.

          So my suggestion of just get public transit would be better remains mostly resolute, I would just add that use trains for cargo and not trucks.

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            Ok how is a kid living on a farm 10 miles from the main road and 20 miles from city limits going to get on public transit?

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              Stick a bus stop somewhere in walking distance and run that route based on need. Like my parents live on a farm about 6km out of town and there’s a bus stop right near the house that bus goes twice per day and adults can ride it too.

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                Where in walking distance? We have miles of unpaved road here with few homes on them and acres of farmland. I don’t think you understand just how large the U.S. is.

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                  If you live like 4 hours from the nearest settlement then you’re fucked either way, school bus or not but those people are in the vast minority everywhere in the world. Walking distance is around 30 minutes on foot in my opinion. Busses work on gravel road, the road in front of my parents house was gravel until recently.

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                    You’re not fucked if the school bus, which is required by law to go to you, goes to you. Which is how it is now.

                    And it was -20 F / -28 C here a few days ago. You expect a six-year-old to take a 30-minute walk in that weather? Really?