Jerry Lerman (@Jerry@hear-me.social)
hear-me.social
Want a piece of PieFed? I'm now running a PieFed instance: https://feddit.online A long time ago I had a #KBIN instance, feddit.online. KBIN is part of the "threadiverse", a Reddit replacement. When KBIN was abandoned, I shut it down. KBIN became #MBIN and Jerry Bell opened a fantastic MBIN instance, fedia.io, to go along with the mother ship instance. I didn't see a reason to open yet another MBIN instance. So feddit.online remained parked ... until now. Ending its time in beta, there is a new #Reddit #Fediverse replacement, #PieFed, which is similar to MBIN in how it works, but is built with different technology. While MBIN is mainly written in PHP and Node, and uses RabbitMQ for queuing, PieFed is written using Flask/Python, with Celery for queuing. I'm much more familiar with Python than PHP, and so PieFed is particularly interesting to me. I might even be able to contribute to the project someday when I get through learning the codebase and learning Flask. More information about PieFed is here: https://join.piefed.social/features/ and https://blog.elenarossini.com/the-future-of-social-is-here-a-show-and-tell-part-4-lemmy-piefed-mbin/ Want to play with PieFed? https://feddit.online is available now. Registration is immediately available while I'm available to watch, but restricted when I'm not watching. If restricted, you just need to give a quick reason for joining and then be patient. Also, some email providers have an issue with email addresses ending in .social, especially that come from a mail server hosted on Digital Ocean. If joining, check your spam filter and white list notitifications@feddit.online Remember, it's beta. So there may be issues and there may be downtime at times to address upgrades and what not. Also, I've been so busy bringing up the server that I haven't had a chance to learn everything yet about it, so I may not have answers to questions. It seems to run efficiently, but I'm unsure if I sized the server optimally. I will grow it if need be. Welcome to anyone interested in checking out PieFed! @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online @jerry@infosec.exchange @rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz @_elena@mastodon.social #Fediverse #Lemmy

There used to be a Kbin instance called feddit.online, which was shut down. @Jerry@hear-me.social just announced on Mastodon, that he brought feddit.online back to life, this time using PieFed. PieFed is a pretty neat alternative to Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin, created by @rimu@piefed.social and of course it’s fully free and open source on Codeberg: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi
It has some cool features like “Topics”, which are basically groups of multiple communities that you can view all at once (similar to these Lemmy feature requests: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113).

  • pseudoEnglish
    30·
    5 days ago

    Perfect! I was looking for a PieFed instance for my next alt.

  • BlazeEnglish
    322·
    13 days ago13 days ago

    Great news!

    Edit : sad to see the first comment being really negative

    • PikaEnglish
      40·
      13 days ago

      I’m not really sure why they say that, looking at it the UI looks pretty sleek

  • cabbageEnglish
    150·
    13 days ago13 days ago

    That’s great!!

    I love PieFed - hopefully this instance will be a success! It’s nice to see something other than the flagship. PieFed seems pretty flexible, so it’ll be fun to see what another instance makes of it.

    I would warmly recommend checking it out!
    (That’s https://feddit.online and https://piefed.social)

  • Remy RoseEnglish
    120·
    13 days ago

    I migrated to the flagship PieFed instance a while ago and haven’t regretted it at all. This place rocks! I would love it if there was an app though, not a big fan of PWAs lol. If I was smarter, I’d try to make one myself. Very exciting to see more instances popping up!

    • Rimu
      170·
      13 days ago

      We’re working on it :)

      • BlazeEnglish
        100·
        13 days ago

        Thank you for your work!

  • hitstun
    110·
    13 days ago

    Whoa… !FloatingIsFun@fedia.io looks really good in PieFed’s tile views! It’s kind of what I was going for with my CSS. I think PieFed has a ton of potential, and I want to mess around with it more.

    @Jerry@hear-me.social, if you just saw a spike of like 1GB of data getting federated in, that was me manually retrieving my first few hundred posts.

    Edit: Oops, I tagged the wrong instance admin named Jerry!

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/82bc05468526d1616ba13a6745d4cd41/37bcb74554ce8982-4e/s999999999x999999999/632e3a71ee6a5ed671886c3eb945e79a52c0811b.gif

    • Jerry Lerman
      50·
      12 days ago

      @hitstun @rimu @Andromxda
      Wow. You’re right. The display is beautiful! I never saw any communities that showed this feature so well!

      I’m glad you joined the server! Welcome.

      And a GB is but a drop. Don’t worry about resource usage.

    • BlazeEnglish
      30·
      12 days ago

      It very much does, I didn’t even know they had that view!

      • AdemirEnglish
        20·
        12 days ago

        is that view native to piefed?

        • BlazeEnglish
          40·
          12 days ago

          Looks like it, piefed.social had it too

  • cachesonEnglish
    81·
    13 days ago

    Good to see another public PieFed instance. Any idea if this one allows subscribing to NSFW communities? They’re entirely blocked by piefed.social, unfortunately.

    Nothing against @rimu (or any other individual admin) for not wanting to deal with having NSFW content cached on his server, but I find the collective prudishness of the threadiverse disheartening. I think it hinders our growth, and fosters a worse culture overall. It’s kind of ironic that Reddit, for all it’s other flaws, is more sex-positive than the threadiverse is.

    • BlazeEnglish
      61·
      13 days ago

      There’s plenty of NSFW content on lemmysnfw.com, I can understand why someone would block NSFW instances for their project flagship instance

      • cachesonEnglish
        51·
        13 days ago13 days ago

        It’s not that I want the threadiverse to deliver porn to me. I’m capable of finding that myself. It’s that I like sex-positive culture and think it’s a good thing for humanity overall.

        As I noted, my complaint isn’t about any specific instance admin. Individually, no one should be required to host or cache anything that they don’t want to. However, the overall trend of blocking NSFW communities is still concerning, and we should advocate for admins to not do that where feasible.

        The design decision to hide NSFW communities from logged-out users also plays a part here. Community discovery is bad enough as it is, and this makes it even worse. Last I checked, lemmynsfw was having to maintain their own patch to fix it, and keep updating it as new lemmy versions are released. Kbin and PieFed also copied this behavior, and I assume Mbin inherited it.

        • rglullisEnglish
          50·
          12 days ago

          If this is so important to you, you are still very much free to start your own instance and see how far it goes.

          • cacheson
            50·
            12 days ago

            I’ve considered it, but my skillset isn’t really suited to it as a solo project. I can write code, and I have a reasonable understanding of the human factors side of things, but my IT skills are lacking. I’d be happy to join a team of like-minded people undertaking such a project, though.

            • rglullisEnglish
              50·
              12 days ago12 days ago

              The problem is not code. The problem is that no one wants to take this responsibility. Every one wants to talk about supportive they are on sex positivity until some men in uniform knocks on their doors because they are running a website that is available for minors all around the world.

              Also, I don’t even want to get in the discussion of “sex positivity” being associated with “easily available porn”. Like you said, porn is easy to find and I really doubt that the someone who is savvy enough to use Lemmy would have trouble to know where it is.

              • cacheson
                40·
                12 days ago

                Every one wants to talk about supportive they are on sex positivity until some men in uniform knocks on their doors because they are running a website that is available for minors all around the world.

                Are you speaking from first-hand experience, or is this conjecture? At least in the US, complying with the law isn’t that difficult.

                Also, I don’t even want to get in the discussion of “sex positivity” being associated with “easily available porn”.

                That’s an odd way to avoid discussing it. Do you think the availability of porn (or prohibition thereof) within an online space has no effect on what kind of culture develops there?

                • rglullisEnglish
                  20·
                  12 days ago12 days ago

                  Do you think the availability of porn within an online space has no effect on what kind of culture develops there?

                  Of course it does have an effect, but there is a difference between “can be found” and “should be encouraged to be treated on equal footing as any other community forum”.

                  Much like “absolute freedom of speech” platforms that inevitably end up catering to people who want to say only repulsive things without repercussion, what do you think will happen if you create an online space and put a big billboard saying “here you will always be free to share your NSFW content”?

                  Content discovery of porn should not be as easy and it should not be trivialized under the pretense of “sex positivity”. One can have an absolutely open mind about sex and sexuality while still wanting to keep a clear boundary of when/how/whom to talk about it.

  • PikaEnglish
    30·
    13 days ago13 days ago

    This is good news that the instance is back up again. But as an Outsiders pov, I’m going to be super hesitant on wanting to interact with the instance since it’s already proven to be shut down once.

    Being said, I love to see people monopolizing on better technology that have more feature sets, and honestly it looks pretty dang cool

    • cabbage
      30·
      13 days ago

      It seems it shut down over Kbin developments. I guess it could have done its users a favour by changing to Mbin, but still… Fair enough. I’m hopeful :)

        • Andrew
          120·
          13 days ago

          That’s a different Jerry! (Jerry Bell)

          • BlazeEnglish
            70·
            13 days ago

            Aaah, I got confused!

  • DarkThoughts
    15·
    13 days ago

    Definitely not for me. The UI looks worse than Lemmy, which I already can’t get behind.

    • Andrew
      160·
      13 days ago

      PieFed has some design principles, including being accessible on lower-end devices and for those with unreliable bandwidth, which mean that it’s default UI is never going to look like apps which involve downloading a sizable chunk of Typescript.

      I’m okay with its look. Partly because it’s themeable, and there’s a theme called ‘Card Shadow’ which looks more modern imo. And partly because Lemmy can feel quite slow showing 20 posts at a time, whereas PieFed throws 100 at a time. And also because there will eventually be an API, allowing people to view it how they want (similar to Lemmy - lemmy-ui is maybe not that great, but there’s other frontends which I think are an improvement)

        • Andrew
          80·
          12 days ago

          Fair enough. I’m not trying to recruit you, or present rivalries where none exist. We can communicate reasonably well regardless of whatever platform we prefer, which is the whole point of this Fediverse thingy anyway.