I got pissed off at Google Photos, which led me down a self-hosting rabbit hole. Ended up installing Linux everywhere, even my “gaming” one eventually (I do development, and WSL was a resource hog).
The hardest thing to degoogle has been email - I’ve used the same address for years. But I use Thunderbird so at least I don’t have to see ads in my fucking inbox
I DO have an ad blocker. I still ended up seeing an ad, that one time. It might’ve been on mobile. Or I might have had my ad block turned off. Either way, I’ve gone out of my way to make sure I never see an ad in my email again. Used mobile devtools to uninstall the Gmail client, Firefox with uBlock add-on, etc…
I use them too, they have some good stuff, but are pretty behind in usability.
No Linux file sync client, making the drive pretty useless for me.
Android file sync is only bloody images for some reasons
The android proton Mail Mobile app is missing some features, like select all
You can’t use any other app than the official one on android (If you don’t use something special to access their server)
You need the proton bridge to be able to access their servers on regular computers. This only works for Mail, so no calendar or contacts sync. You can only host the proton bridge on localhost, meaning that automating SMTP for a server with containers or vms just isn’t possible. Every host needs to run the damn bridge.(proper SMTP is apparently available for businesses)
Can’t sync the contacts to my phone (only upload my contacts)
I just wish they did usability a bit better, it can’t be so hard. There is probably more that I didn’t think of right now. Don’t get me wrong, they have big potential.
They do pgp (yay)
They offer hosting mail for your domain (just set DNS to their values, it just works and there haven’t been any problems with that part.)
Pretty pro open source
Seems like the best alternative we can get to megacorp data stealer clouds, besides Selfhosting perhaps
I’ve never had any downtime, which is why I switched from Selfhosting Mail to proton
I’m sure they have much better security than my selfhosted mailcow
May I recommend Proton Mail? I used gmail for years then decided to finally switch and it was easier than I thought, tho tbf I also don’t have a lot of people who need to email me, it was mostly services where it’s easier to tell them to switch over to the other mail.
I’ll have to check it out! Same here, mostly services on my end - but I’ve accumulated enough of them to make it tiresome. Still, I’ll have to do it at some point
I got pissed off at Google Photos, which led me down a self-hosting rabbit hole. Ended up installing Linux everywhere, even my “gaming” one eventually (I do development, and WSL was a resource hog).
The hardest thing to degoogle has been email - I’ve used the same address for years. But I use Thunderbird so at least I don’t have to see ads in my fucking inbox
There are ads in Gmail?
I guess I’ve been using ad blockers for far too long…
Yes… They don’t seem to show up in the primary tab, but they’re there nonetheless. Nowhere is safe, and nothing is sacred.
If you’re seeing ads, install an ad blocker. I haven’t seen a Gmail ad in well over a decade.
I DO have an ad blocker. I still ended up seeing an ad, that one time. It might’ve been on mobile. Or I might have had my ad block turned off. Either way, I’ve gone out of my way to make sure I never see an ad in my email again. Used mobile devtools to uninstall the Gmail client, Firefox with uBlock add-on, etc…
Thry are also apparently using the tab configuration.
I quite like Proton mail it’s secure and the interface is pretty damn good
I use them too, they have some good stuff, but are pretty behind in usability.
I just wish they did usability a bit better, it can’t be so hard. There is probably more that I didn’t think of right now. Don’t get me wrong, they have big potential.
Yeah I feel the trade off is worth it plus the lack of third party app access weirdly just improves my trust in their security.
I see what you mean, but it still sucks.
Sucks for you don’t mean sucks for everyone.
I mean, having more options would be good for everyone, no?
Maybe, however sometimes a strict set of rules is required to enforce a pleasant experience
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May I recommend Proton Mail? I used gmail for years then decided to finally switch and it was easier than I thought, tho tbf I also don’t have a lot of people who need to email me, it was mostly services where it’s easier to tell them to switch over to the other mail.
EDIT: I read your later comment nvm
I’ll have to check it out! Same here, mostly services on my end - but I’ve accumulated enough of them to make it tiresome. Still, I’ll have to do it at some point
What are you using instead of Google Photos?
I’m the other way round, email was the first thing I degoogled. It’s Photos I don’t know how to replace.
Immich
“The project is under very active development. Expect bugs and changes. Do not use it as the only way to store your photos and videos!”
I’m aware :) really, anyone that backs up anything at all shouldn’t be using ONE THING for backups.
Personally, I use it to “sync” photos from my phone to my computer. I run nightly backups via a cron script.
Still, can’t say I’ve had any issues so far
ente.io is OK.
Related: does anyone here have any thoughts on Tutanota and how it compares to Proton Mail? I’ve considered using it in the future.
You could switch to proton mail and synchronize the gmail account to proton, saves the hassle 👍