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    Will energy prices become negative when the AI bubble bursts?

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      No, EVs alone require 10 times the current installed energy production. We’re not even close. Expect energy rates to quadruple. The price will increase until people can’t afford the commute with their entire day’s paycheck.

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        EVs alone require 10 times the current installed energy production.

        No they don’t.

        The UK national grid estimates there needs to be a 4-5% increase each year, for roughly 15 years. That’s achievable.

        The US won’t be too different.

        Expect energy rates to quadruple

        Why quadruple. Where are you getting this from?

        The price will increase until people can’t afford the commute with their entire day’s paycheck.

        They obviously won’t.

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          Fossil fuel power plants don’t count. EVs running of fossil fuel make no sense. Remove them from the equation and my prediction becomes extremely optimistic.

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            In what world don’t they count?

            They can power EVs. And running an EV on fossil fuel electricity is still far less polluting than running a petrol or diesel car.

            Where are your sources for what you’re saying?

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            EVs are currently running partially on fossil fuel just fine and generating less pollution than ICEs because power plant efficiency is still better than combustion engine efficiency.