My data is already bought and sold by companies. But when government agencies do it, suddenly we only need to stop them. Stop this madness. It shouldn’t matter if it’s corporations or a government, why not stop the sale of people’s data?
Does the NSA need a warrant to purchase information that’s being legally gathered and sold?
While it’s extremely immoral and unethical, I’m not sure about unconstitutional.
Well if a thing is immoral and unethical, then isn’t it reasonable to call for it to be MADE illegal?
It absolutely is
then maybe you should limit your ‘chilling effect’ replies as to not damp down the fervor for change that is starting to develop in response to government overreach.
Arguing that it isn’t unconstitutional isn’t productive if you want to see it changed.
You don’t have to be a Devil’s Advocate for bad government policy.
Maybe you should work on your chill, buddy, because I was asking a question. I don’t know if the SC has ever ruled on whether the government is allowed to purchase commercially available information without a warrant.
I made no argument in favor of the practice. In fact, I went out of my way to state that I disagreed with the practice.
But you’re well aware of that, aren’t you?
I bet you think if you lick that boot good enough they won’t step on your neck with it.
So fucking naive.
Also I already reported your sockpuppets, enjoy the ban.
Sure, but ex post facto is a thing. If people feel that this should be illegal they should write their representatives, but this headline is disingenuous.
Actions are only illegal if they were against the law at the time they were taken. If fireworks become illegal on July 5th I can’t be found guilty for shooting them off on July 4th.
The headline implies the NSA broke a law that does not exist, actively misleading those who read it. Shame on the “journalist” or editor that wrote it. Fabricated criticisms and grievances dilute genuine ones.
If people feel that this should be illegal they should write their representatives
Waste of time and paper and you know that. Our representatives that would support us in this, and not just reply with a form letter, already know and push the issues but they are a minority in congress.
If fireworks become illegal on July 5th I can’t be found guilty for shooting them off on July 4th.
I’m more concerned with making sure it doesn’t happen in the future. If that means everyone being shitbags in the past get a free pass, maybe that’s worth it.
The headline implies the NSA broke a law that does not exist,
It sure would be nice if the PATRIOT act hadn’t fucked everyone’s opinion on privacy.
All of this is at best tangential.
The NSA broke no law. The article’s headline implies that the NSA broke the law. This headline is misleading.
You don’t need to simp for an agency that spies on innocent civilians, you really don’t.
Yes, wanting factual, unbiased journalism truly is the greatest form of simping.
You clearly didn’t read the tail end of my original comment. Fabricated grievances dilute genuine ones. This publication is crying wolf. This makes people pay less attention when news breaks about an actual fuckup.
So many fucking government bootlickers in this thread, starting to think you’re all sockpuppets.
No, no more than its illegal for a detective to use evidence seized in a raid against a thief ring, to arrest drug dealers because there was a photo of them holding big bags of cocaine with “We Love Dealing Drugs” written and autographed on the back. They’d never have a search warrant for the dealers’ house normally, but because it was robbed by someone else and the photo turned up somewhere else for them to find, it’s fair game.
Does the NSA need a warrant to purchase information that’s being legally gathered and sold?
The governments in the US shouldn’t be collecting non-public information without a warrant if acquiring that information directly would require a warrant. Seems like a clear infringement of the 4th amendment.
This is why people should start using Tor alongside their regular browser every day, even if it is for trivial things. Eventually it’ll be the difference between life and death for some poor bugger and the least everyone else can do is provide a bit of obfuscating cover.
As if the NSA isn’t running an army of exit nodes.
TOR was originally a DARPA project and everyone seems to forget this.
I mean, it’s caught a ton of pedos so I can’t really be angry but anyone who thought a DARPA project wasn’t going to be massively salted with 3 letter agency tracking servers are just plain naive.
Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if a ton of those bitcoin doublers weren’t NSA agents making some sidecash.
You don’t need to outrun the tiger you just have to be faster than the slowest villager.
We should look out for all the villagers and reduce the risk of tiger attacks.
But… But… TikTok bad!!
…Yes
Just because one thing is bad doesn’t mean other things can’t be.
Tiktok is bad because it weaponizes short attention span laziness and feeds depression.
TOR is bad because there is a good chance the government has stripped away its privacy capabilities.
Frankly in my mind that makes Tiktok a fucktonne worse.
Most of the people ‘harmed’ by TOR exit node scraping are pedos and illegal weapons dealers.
Most of the people harmed by tiktok is literally 2 generations of youth.
Can you not see the difference?
For me, if data tiktok collects is “bad” but same collection is being done by the government, and if the data they deal in can be easily obtained from any of countless legal data brokers, then the problem isn’t a single app the rage machine has been incited to hate.
Full disclosure: I don’t use tiktok, ex-twitter, FB, IG, SC or other corpo social media. I just look past the popular outrage to the main problem: lack of meaningful privacy legislation.
Your argument about the downsides of tiktok (attention span and laziness) applies to anything you want it to since the invention of books or recorded music (right through TV, video games rock & roll, cell phones…), which were also considered attention span suckers and conduits for evil.