• Capt. Wolf
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    10 months ago
    edit-2
    10 months ago
    link
    fedilink

    Guarantee the study also states that you have to consume an ungodly amount of it too

    News reports grab on to stuff like this all the time. Like what they did with safrole.

    • smooth_tea
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago
      link
      fedilink

      The article actually states how much. 15% of the daily recommended amount.

      • Silverseren
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        10 months ago
        link
        fedilink

        There’s a daily recommended amount for mice? Or was that 15% of the recommended amount for humans, which would be massive for mice?

        • someguy3English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago
          link
          fedilink

          15% of humans recommended amount. It’s in the article.

          • smooth_tea
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            0
            ·
            10 months ago
            link
            fedilink

            Actually no, the keyword is equivalent, so adjusted for body weight.

            • someguy3English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              0
              ·
              10 months ago
              link
              fedilink

              Ah I think you’re right.

          • Silverseren
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            10 months ago
            link
            fedilink

            So 15% for a 60 kilogram human, on the lower end, would be the daily recommended amount for a 9 kilogram creature. A mouse weighs around 0.025 kilograms. So, that amount for the mice is for something 360 times larger.

            Obviously it’s more complicated than that with differing metabolisms and the like, but as a rough estimate, wow. That’s a lot.

            • smooth_tea
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              0
              ·
              10 months ago
              link
              fedilink

              I’m baffled by your willingness to elaborate at length about this, but not read the article where this is explained. Misinforming everyone in the process.

              When a sample of mice were given free access to water dosed with aspartame equivalent to 15 percent of the FDA’s recommended maximum daily amount for humans, they generally displayed more anxious behavior in specially designed mood tests.

        • smooth_tea
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago
          link
          fedilink

          It’s the equivalent of the human daily dose. So adjusted for body weight. Loosely translated, it would be 15% of the daily recommended dose for mice.

      • Capt. Wolf
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago
        link
        fedilink

        I stand corrected! That’s a ridiculously small amount!

        • Silverseren
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          10 months ago
          link
          fedilink

          Just in case you missed it, we discussed below that that’s the 15% daily recommended amount for a human. That they gave to the mice. A creature several hundred times smaller.

          So you were right in the first place.

          • smooth_tea
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            0
            ·
            10 months ago
            link
            fedilink

            No, it’s the equivalent dose.

            When a sample of mice were given free access to water dosed with aspartame equivalent to 15 percent of the FDA’s recommended maximum daily amount for humans, they generally displayed more anxious behavior in specially designed mood tests.

          • papertowels
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            0
            ·
            10 months ago
            link
            fedilink

            Can you cite your sources? This excerpt from the published article suggests you’re wrong:

            The FDA recommended maximum DIV for aspartame for humans is 50 mg/kg (33). Based on allometric conversion utilizing pharmacokinetic and body surface area parameters (43), the mouse equivalent of the human DIV is 615 mg/kg/d. Therefore, the male mice received a daily aspartame dose equivalent to 14.0%, 7.0%, and 3.5% of the FDA recommended human DIV, and the females received a dose equivalent to 15.5%, 7.7%, and 3.9% of the human DIV.