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    Tell you what. I’ll deny there is any genocide in Gaza on the exact same basis that you’re denying it for the Uyghurs. Does that work for you? If it really has to be “extraordinary”, then it has to be applied equally.

    Or is this not something like, say, UFOs or homeopathy where we actually need extraordinary evidence?

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      There is evidence of significant mistreatment of Uyghurs in China. The poster is a deliberate liar covering the interest of the government of China. This is a matter for moderators, they’re not talking in good faith.

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        I know. I specifically want to target this phrase “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, because I’ve noticed it being increasingly abused to ignore evidence.

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        ‘significant mistreatment’ is a big step down from genocide, even then I would love to see the evidence for it and adjust my view of the situation.

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      Not the same basis at all. You can’t deny there is genocide in Gaza because there is extensive photographic and video evidence, aid openly going from the US to Israel, plenty of refugees seeking asylum in neighbouring countries, palestine voices talking about it and so on. Israel themselves seem pretty nonchalant about it. Similar but not equal evidence arose in Armenia, apartheid South Africa, nazi Germany and so on.

      There are pictures of unidentified prisioners and some corporate media used to make pretty extraordinary (as in out of the ordinary) claims about them. No we don’t need as much proof as UFOs, its not even on the same ballpark.

      So I can repeat my reasoning with more context: Where is all that evidence of Muslims being genocided by the droves over there?

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        Nah, all I see are pictures from Russian outlets.

        See how easy that was to pretend there is no evidence?

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          what do you even mean, should i even try to argue with this in good faith?

          you can literally find publications from all around the world doing original hands-on journalism about it on the first few pages of google.

          im literally asking for all that evidence on every post now. all i can find is, yet again, pictures of random unidentifiable prisioners with wild conspiracies about them being part of a secret genocide.

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            should i even try to argue with this in good faith?

            No, you should go back to the cesspool of thoughtless praxis that is .ml.

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              Do not feed the troll. They’re fighting for mindspace. Just answering the top-level comments denies them the right to exist without direct contradiction.

              We know they’re lying, and everyone really willing to challenge the idea will find enough on the Internet to find the right anwser. Now’s the right time for you to disengage. No need to give a platform to those disgusting nazis.

              Mission accomplished. More tankies banned.