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    The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want, as could Putin.

    Reality is the Russians invaded. They rejected world order.

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        World order is acknowledging sovereign countries exist and it’s wrong to invade them

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          Right right, which countries acknowledge that Palestine exists again?

          You don’t care. You’ve never cared! Stop lying to our fucking faces you gremlin, you love this! You love this war because you’re a mindless western drone that loves cheering for imperialism and the deaths of the enemies of ‘the west’

          You don’t give a single fuck about countries sovereignty, nor of human rights, nor of life and liberty

          Fuck off

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          World order is acknowledging sovereign countries exist and it’s wrong to invade them

          The United States has invaded many more countries than Russia and China, and yet they are sanctioned for doing so/if America thinks they might do so, while not a single person in the American government is punished for the deaths of millions. They even get promoted and hired again on later governments! America created the world order! Rules for thee, not for me!

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                Each country has one vote. The US is just one country of 31 member states

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                  Sure, there’s no power imbalance between the global hegemonic ruler and its “allies”. The fact that on paper they each get a vote means its perfectly equal

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                  libs will say this and then turn around and say BRICS is just an arm of China, it’s dominated by them economically”

                  (not that that point is entirely false, BRICS is indeed economically dominated by China and I wonder if there would be half as much interest for countries to join if China wasn’t in it, but India is a pretty big counterweight to China’s power in BRICS in practice)

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      The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want

      The Ukrainian government could, the same government that banned every political party that wasn’t sufficiently anti-Russia. And the last time the people got to vote, they elected Zelensky who ran as a peace candidate. So no, the people of Ukraine, the ones being drafted and sent to the front lines, have very little say over whether Ukraine negotiates for peace.

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        Wait a minuteyou expect a country to tolerate those sympathetic with a country.that they’re at war with?

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          I thought Ukraine were the Good Guys ™? Good Guys don’t repress political groups because they disagree with them, they should debate them in the marketplace of ideas.

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          “Wait a minute” None of this surprises you. Youre doing this for show. You want us to feel guilty about our beliefs, and your plan is to act shocked and bewildered by things you know. Begone debate-pervert

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            There were Nazi groups in the US at the beginning of WWIi. They were quite large. Within a year, every leader of the Bund was interned or jailed as dangerous aliens, and by the end of December 1941, the US Government outlawed the German-American Bund