• Skua
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    All of the countries near Russia that joined NATO did so because they already have their biggest aggressor on their doorsteps.

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      so afraid that they based their energy grids on russian fuel

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        If buying stuff from the other side is your yardstick, NATO clearly wasn’t a threat to Russia. Germany, Italy, France, and America were all some of Russia’s largest import sources in 2021.

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          which all sounds really dumb if russia was that big of an aggressor in the first place. either that or you know, they werent.

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            Yep, those Russian tanks that crossed into Ukrainian sovereign land were tanks of peace.

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              Those paratroopers were there to peacefully take the airport too

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            Oh cool, then neither is aggressor. Since they were both doing business with each other. Because apparently that’s how it works.

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              Then whats the fucking problem. Why provoke this useless war with russia?

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                Functionally illiterate troll does not understand “your argument is self-defeating nonsense” unless it’s spelled out.

                And I’m putting a lot of faith in the implication you understand it even now.

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                  way to move the goalposts here. wasnt russia a huge scary threat?

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                    I’m sorry I misplaced that faith.

                    I am using your argument to point out your argument makes no god-damn sense. I don’t believe your argument. I am highlighting how, if you believed your argument, you’d find it fucks up your conclusion. But you don’t care.

                    You’re just making mouth noises to justify a conclusion you picked well before any argument-shaped sentences.

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        Yes. Creating co-dependencies and peacetime ties, in hopes of keeping relations normal and peaceful.

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          so save a couple of things, almost exactly as they have been before motherfuckers started provoking war with russia

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            Belligerently existing near the border, how dare they. Did you see what they were wearing?

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              yeah lets put the worlds biggest aggressor’s army right at their doorstep.

              that oughtta make them happy.