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    yes, i know that’s the accepted wisdom but i’m not seeing it. and if that were a real fear, then europe has just played itself, because russia is only going to be more likely to attack now that europe has shown itself to be a paper tiger maybe it would’ve been better to say an absolute no to the idea of ukraine joining nato in 2008 or so. maybe there would still be a ukraine.

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      Tough to know. Nobody seems to have an idea how Russia’s hostilities could be solved

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        not being hostile to them first would’ve helped

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          Which attack was that? Couldn’t pinpoint by searching. Anyway, instead of hypothetical dwelling, time machines are not yet functional so the solutions need to be in the now and the future.

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            the EU leadership doesnt seem to be looking for that kind of solution either, they’re just doubling down on what doesnt seem to be working

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              Yeah could be. Nobody with the capability to stop doesn’t seem to have the will

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              Most sane hexbear user, has to point to possible offences more than 60 years ago to justify present russian imperialism, oppression and colonialism.

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                Also it’s quite a stretch to destroy Ukraine and its people because of the USA or Turkey

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          Or doing nothing lead to the current point. Oh well, it’s up to some future generations to look with hindsight

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            Literally looking at any fucking moment in the last 100 years would demonstrate that every intervention on the part of the West led exactly to this current moment

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            We toppled their entire government and replaced them with nazis, as is our method. Then we gave the nazis training and weapons for eight full years while they massacred people in eastern Ukraine. We forced a military response from the next door neighbor because that’s what we wanted to do.