Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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    Unironically “why didn’t Marx think of human nature lol”

    Actually read a book and stop trying to sound like a smartass asserting stuff on the basis of “it feels true”.

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      Must be the lizard people then, huh? I mean, if human nature has had nothing to do with the outcome of Marxism’s lack of uptake in global societies and cultures- Oh wait, I’m doing it again. Just because that “feels true” is might not be so. I’m learning

      So, since that’s all a lie and I’m clearly unaware that Maxism is actually wildly successful across the globe, please, recommend a book so I can keep riding the Revelation Train.

      I would like to know why people keep bringing up Karl on a comment about communism. Maybe he has works you know about which explains how they are synonymous. Any literature with that would help since everything I’ve read clearly disassociated and outlines the two, including Karl’s own writings.

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        I didn’t know “human nature” was shorthand for “current capitalist states”.

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          It’s not. That would be very inefficient shorthand.

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          These aren’t Maxist states. Those that do have Marxist traits are (mostly) Stalin’s Maxism-Leninism which obviously has some very different views to Marxism, especially on social matters and rejection of the left.

          You’re even commecting the Soviets in, so I can only assume you’re referring to the Stalinisation and De-Stalinisation periods, which this map seems to be just that.

          But the map and commentary is still interesting.

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            Marxism isn’t a rigid doctrine, it adapts to the material conditions of the world around it, as it was designed to do.

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              That doesn’t mean anything to the point I’m raising. But it is correct and why it has hybridised with other ideologies. It is another part of human nature to pick and choose what suits best. Also why capitalism is as bad as it is.