Western countries have for too long acquiesced to the Indian government’s abuses
As an Indian I agree. But I need to see conclusive proof first. I don’t want to see my country degrades itself to the same level as CIA / NSA or Mossad. If we did something wrong there should be adequate consequences.
And if we didn’t there should be equally measured consequences for the once who made acquisitions without adequate proof
Canadian sources say that, when pressed behind closed doors, no Indian official has denied the bombshell allegation at the core of this case — that there is evidence to suggest Indian government involvement in the assassination of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sikh-nijjar-india-canada-trudeau-modi-1.6974607
Our government has not released a single statement saying ‘we didn’t do it’ AFAIK. Let us know if you find any.
The thing is we’re scared of China and you’re the only developing country of over a billion left, on top of your ideological and language similarities with us. Even Trudeau is treading as lightly as he can given the situation.
If the west is scared of China, then India’s PM Modi is terrified of them. In June 2020, When China invaded India in Galwan and beat our 20 soldiers to death, Modi publicly state that nothing happened in Galwan. Since then he has been unable to take China’s name, even when China built an entire village with paved roads in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh.
The Modi govt that rules India is ideologically fascist dictatorial, majoritarian, and violently Hindu supremacist. If that is also your country’s ideological stance then we do have a lot in common.Removed by mod
What evidence do you want to see about a state-sponsored assassination? It’s happened twice now and you think it’s an accident?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-homicide-victim-wanted-india-1.6975772
Just yesterday.
That’s hardly proof
Not saying it isn’t true… but from that alone nada. someone posting something on twitter and then someone is murdered… must be government?!
He’s wanted in India.
Was* wanted
Well, yeah. Obviously not wanted anymore, since they got him lol.
Sounds like a terrorist who got assassinated in a foreign country.
Anyway this OP has a vendetta against India. They have yet to comment on all the atrocities being carried out by Muslim governments daily.
Oh, but US/Canada/West ordering murders in India/East/Global South is fine? The Brits haven’t even acknowledged what they did to India…
Any evidence Canada is responsible for ordering assassinations in other countries? Would love to know more about that.
Canada is aly with the countries carrying out these associations. I never saw one statement from Canada condemning these actions, rather I can pull up multiple tweets from Canada’s officials supporting these assassinations.
Canada was in Afghanistan no?
Canada’s fascist roots are going to be impossible to hide when dealing with this sort of thing.
EDIT because apparently the obvious “they were going to find a way let them get away with it” wasn’t unhinged enough for the internet to have it as their first thought.
How is Canada fascist?
I thought Trudeau was a commie.
I know they don’t teach people about the mass genocide the country was built on, but this is fucking ridiculous.
Woah buddy I’m not engaging in this conversation.
Have a good one.
Understandable, that one always ruffles the feathers of the chromatically challenged.
No it just sounds like you’re implying India was justified in assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil because Canada has done bad things in its past.
I don’t want anything to do with this conversation.
Well fuck no wonder it got downvoted so hard.
never previously in the friendly and orderly West.
Well, started reading the article, got to this line and cringed.
For a kinder and friendlier colonism.
yes, that line had me laughing too.
It is a vague reference that they are following the route of China and Russia by ignoring and abusing the laws of western states.
Oh no, its a clear reference to the blind eye the west & the world has turned to the ongoing genocide of Muslims & Christians in India by Modi govt & the Hindu supremacist thugs it supports.
The laws of Western states that the West only selectively follows? Gee…
If I go to another country I follow the laws of that state. It is called respect.
What if the state itself doesn’t follow those laws?
We have done what now? India has only been a country since like 1947, what are these long trains of abuses you refer to here in the west? Chippendales?
And I had a conversation just last week where I verbatim said ‘Canada isn’t going to war with anyone. I mean, can you imagine?’
Well, now who has egg on their face.
Is there any evidence that India ordered the assassination?
If Canada follows the 9/11 protocol, they would invade pakistan
but in old Canadian fashion, we’re just going to bend over and take it
Are we pretending the West doesn’t order murders in other countries?
Well, for one, I doubt Canada does it, and for another, the Americans at least have the self-respect to own what they’re doing when somebody calls them out on it instead of switching into crybully mode and throw a diplomatic temper tantrum like Modi is.
I don’t recall Obama ever pulling diplomats and visas from Pakistan when their government was angry about US airstrikes in their country.
“I didn’t do it and if I did it was justified” just looks childish.
The US still promotes dictatorships around the world, and in Latin America specifically, while claiming to promote democracy. There isn’t even that much democracy at home.
The narcissist’s prayer definitely applies to the country that elected Trump, as it does to Trump himself.
America doesn’t “own up” to anything unless forced to, not sure what America you’re talking about
Regardless if the guy deserved it or not, killing them in a country you are supposed to be on good terms with is not the way to go about it.
At this point India is barely even trying to hide it.
It’s too early to confirm who did it, but it looks like it just happened again:
An alleged (edit: alleged by India) Khalistani terrorist was just murdered in his home in Winnepeg.
And all the Indian news outlets are claiming the guy was a gangster and that this was a gang-related shooting. Meanwhile the local Winnipeg police are just like “Uh, we have no evidence on that as of yet and have made no statements about that, where the frick are you getting this claim from?”
Yeah, extradition exists
Not only that, but Canada has proven its firm hand on this. When China went apeshit after Meng Wanzhou’s arrest in Canada to extradite her to the USA, Canada stuck to its guns. Even after two Canadians were taken hostage by the Chinese government in a retaliatory arrest, Meng stayed under arrest with her extradition going forward, while the rest of the world (including Modi’s India) politely looked the other way rather than angering China.
India cannot possibly claim they couldn’t have gotten results from Canada if they’d gone through the legal system.
Why would India get in the way of China - Canada diplomatic relations.
India is claiming that, Kanishka bombing is a great read for Canadians who have forgotten their history and who actually they are shielding.
Hardeep Singh Nijjar was born 11 October 1977.
Air India Flight 182 was bombed 23 June 1985.
How are they related?
Uhh, the Khalistan separatists bombed the Air India flight. Canada’s justice system failed to convict a single person for that bombing, which killed 329 people, including 268 Canadians, 27 Britons, 22 Indians, and 12 others. So much for the credibility of Canadian justice. This is in spite of repeated warnings by the Indian govt. Trudeau (current PM’s father) refused to cooperate, citing that India no longer accepted the Queen as its sovereign (How the hell was that related, as a refusal? Canada’s own official records literally show this.)
I am talking about history and how it tends to repeat if you don’t correct the mistakes, the mistake Canadian Govt. is making again by shielding these terrorists, just because they need NDPs support to keep their govt running and it’s a shame how bais plays into it, just because you don’t want to believe violent separatists are terrorists it doesn’t mean they aren’t.
I’d say the violent ones here were the Indian government who were alleged here to have had a Canadian citizen assassinated on Canadian soil.
Why didn’t India go through legal means and extradite him?
I’d say the Indian govt wasn’t just going to sit there and let this militant terrorist attack them at his leisure. He hadn’t settled down into some quiet life in Canada, and was running a training camp to teach youth recruited by him how to fire high-powered sniper rifles. He was also making fiery speeches at his local temple. How come you don’t know these things? Because the CBC won’t tell you. https://www.hindustantimes.com/ht-img/img/2023/09/23/550x309/nijjar_1695433548613_1695433559433.jpg I don’t have any pictures of myself posing with automatic weapons - do you?
What’s interesting is that India has been claiming the guy is a terrorist for years, but never really gave specific examples of what made him a terrorist other than his spouting separatist beliefs (which maybe is enough in India to arrest someone?)
But they also don’t seem to have bothered to even try to extradite him, which seems telling in itself.
Have you seen the extradition request? Who told you India has not given proof to Canada? He is wanted in a bombing and multiple killings. A simple google search will give you the case no. and relevant details for his involvement in such crimes.
They’ve sent numerous dossiers to Ottawa. But Ottawa was acting in bad faith. They even asked to send a negotiating team of govt officials to meet with the guy to negotiate peace terms. Ottawa refused to allow this. Ottawa was clearing acting in bad faith. Apparently there are people in the Canadian govt who would like to keep conflicts alive in India, perhaps to maintain some sort of leverage over them.
“the guy deserved it” should never be justification for a state to kill someone. Even if you think capital punishment is justified, it should only be after a fair trial. And, if someone has a capital punishment sentence against them, that’s only valid within their own borders.
If you violate a country’s monopoly of the use of force within their own borders, that’s a step on the path to war.
When the US demanded that the Taliban govt in Afghanistan hand over Bin Laden after 9/11, they refused, saying that the US should follow due process. They said the US should first submit evidence to their Sharia courts. The US responded by invading the country, ousting the Taliban and replacing their govt with one of its own choosing, and bombing and occupying the place for 20 years (the longest war in American history.)
Also, the guy in question was a Canadian citizen.
If you’re a Canadian citizen, and see Canada as your homeland, then why would you be trying to carve out a homeland elsewhere on the other side of the world for yourself? Could it be that he was just using Canada as his base of operations? If I claim that you and I are happily married, then wouldn’t it be a little suspicious if I’m dating other women and posting ads saying I’m looking for a new girlfriend? That guy entered Canada on a false passport, while he was wanted on an Interpol Red Corner notice. He then tried to gain citizenship by marrying some young girl, but authorities rejected his lame attempt. But then somehow he was later granted citizenship. Maybe the citizenship process isn’t all it’s cracked up to be - and maybe the existing Canadian citizenry are being shortchanged as a result? Also, after gaining citizenship, that guy didn’t settle down into a quiet life, and was running a training camp to train Sikh youth on how to fire high-powered sniper rifles. These things sound like very odd things to do for a happy, well-adjusted Canadian citizen.
modi isnt humble and so isnt his government. modis shitty support for russia is wrong. he has already lost touch with reality. i think the image of india in the west is falling rapidly, but i am sure modiist know why everyone else is wrong. time to rename the country. it is no longer happy nice india, bad bahRAT.
India’s image is better now than ever
Hahaha. Oh wait you’re serious? Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHA!
It isn’t? So are you saying when India was much much poorer it was better off?
