Hi friends,

I have some external hard drives and SSDs, which I use with my Debian 11 machine. I normally use them through the GUI file manager(pcmanfm-qt). I tried to access them from the terminal using commands I found after searching the web, like, fdisk, mount etc. However, the issue is that I have to use sudo when using these commands and as a result after mounting I cannot make changes to my files in the drive(s) without using sudo. The only way to avoid using sudo, is to first go to the required folder in the GUI file manager and then opening the folder in terminal. Is there a way to forego using the GUI file manager completely and only using the terminal entirely to properly access my drives and make changes without using sudo?

EDIT: Someone suggested usbmount. I am sure that works, but it is not packaged for Debian. Instead, as suggested, by another person, I use pmount. It works perfectly for my needs on Debian. Thanks to all for taking the time to respond and help me with my problem.

  • boredsquirrel
    130·
    5 months ago

    The only correct answer is udisksctl

    This is what KDE Dolphin also uses. It can mount, unlock LUKS and more.

    Mounts will be in /run/media/user

  • stembolts
    122·
    5 months ago5 months ago

    Is it just me that dislikes when packages are mentioned instead of a series of terminal commands? I don’t want to install a package. Why would I want to rely on a package and it’s maintainer when I could write a shell script using the tools native to my OS?

    Is this unreasonable or just unpopular?

    • 0x0
      50·
      5 months ago

      That and every command preceded by sudo.

      • stembolts
        60·
        5 months ago5 months ago

        Just…

        $ sudo su

        …bam, no more sudo. And likely no more system within a few sessions 🫣

        Solution? Just don’t make mistakes. Ezpz. /s

        • Laser
          20·
          5 months ago

          I know you’re joking anyways, but I always cringe when I see that. There’s no need to invoke su there. If you want a root shell, use sudo -s or sudo -i depending on what kind of shell you want.

    • lemmyreaderEnglish
      51·
      5 months ago

      Is it just me that dislikes when packages are mentioned instead of a series of terminal commands? I don’t want to install a package. Why would I want to rely on a package and it’s maintainer when I could write a shell script using the tools native to my OS?

      Yes, that’s just you and probably explains why you are on a programming Lemmy instance. Personally I like to use the terminal myself for reasons including starting some GUI applications but I am sure that most people (“normies”) would run away screaming if the first moment they would spot a terminal. See, everyone has their own preferences :)

      • stembolts
        30·
        5 months ago5 months ago

        I have no critique of anyone’s preference. I joined the linux board looking for discussions on novel ways to use the system.

        Since I haven’t found that here, I thought I’d add a comment to see if it’s just me. And I wanted to check to see if there is an alternative forum for such conversations.

        Maybe a shell, bash, scripting, or man page community. Idk.

        • lemmyreaderEnglish
          40·
          5 months ago

          Since I haven’t found that here, I thought I’d add a comment to see if it’s just me. And I wanted to check to see if there is an alternative forum for such conversations.

          Maybe a shell, bash, scripting, or man page community. Idk.

          Right. It’s in my opinion not so easy to find communities or finding people wanting to share the same interests. How about these ?

          • stembolts
            30·
            5 months ago

            Yeah the search tool isn’t the greatest, tho I expect third party maps of communities will spring up at some point.

            Thanks.

    • ReversalHatcheryEnglish
      30·
      5 months ago

      If you want to invent and maintain your wheel then go ahead… but I think we have better things to do than maintaining half the code of an operating system.

      Udisksctl has a variety of relevant features, and it works good, kind of.

  • bloodfart
    60·
    5 months ago5 months ago

    I also use lxqt as a desktop environment and when I click on removable drives it uses the pmount command to present them in user space.

    here’s some information

    E: someone already said pmount. Good looking out lemmyreader

    • Libre ExtremistOPEnglish
      10·
      5 months ago

      Thanks. I don’t use lxqt as my DE though. I use a custom DE based on i3. I will look into it.

      • bloodfart
        20·
        5 months ago

        you can always gain 100 lbs and grow a bunch of body hair. the lxqt door remains open to you.

  • BCsven
    41·
    5 months ago

    Maybe you are looking for a mount as USER type command

    mount -t deviceFileFormat -o umask=filePermissions,gid=ownerGroupID,uid=ownerID /device /mountpoint

    • Libre ExtremistOPEnglish
      30·
      5 months ago

      Thanks. I will try this method as well. For now, pmount seems to work fine.

  • KindaABigDyl
    30·
    5 months ago5 months ago

    Have you tried usbmount?

    This automatically mounts usb drives if they’re vfat, ext4, or hfsplus. Options: sync,noexec,nodev,noatime,nodiratime

    I believe it puts them in /media/run/DEVICE_NAME or something like that

    • Libre ExtremistOPEnglish
      40·
      5 months ago

      Thanks for your response. But the Debian package is not maintained. Do you know of any other way?

      • MonkderDritte
        50·
        5 months ago5 months ago

        udisksctl mount -b /dev/yourdisk

        Probably already installed. If not, it’s udisks2. Needs D-bus.

  • ElderWendigo
    10·
    5 months ago

    However, the issue is that I have to use sudo when using these commands and as a result after mounting I cannot make changes to my files in the drive(s) without using sudo.

    This isn’t because you’re using sudo to mount, that is the way to do it. This is because you’re mounting to a directory for which your regular user does not have write access. Create a directory owned by your user and make sure you have write access with sudo first. Or make it owned by a group that your user is a member (I use media) and give that group write access. Then mount the drive to that directory in the usual way (I prefer to clutter up my fstab with entries I rarely use). You should now have access without sudo.

    9 out of 10 times new users are struggling with access, it’s not a problem with the software, but a problem with permissions.