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    It’s also irresponsible to think of it only as democrats and republicans. It’s also irresponsible to doompost and naysay any positive action because it’s not perfect. It’s also irresponsible to act as though you stand on a moral high ground when all you can do is turn up your nose and say “not good enough”.

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      That is not an answer. Do Democrats need progressives enough to concede on issues?

      Yes or No? Thats the reality we face, like it or not.

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        No one can read the future so who knows maybe? Maybe not? Depends how many people go out to vote?

        Enjoy your life under the boot if you take that gamble and it doesn’t go your way, and always remember your share of the blame whatever comes.

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          I agree. Its a risky game, and when dems are alienating their base, it becomes far riskier. Truly irresponsible behavior.

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        Are you willing to let Trump win if the answer is no?

        That’s the reality we face, like it or not.

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          So nobody will answer. Got it.

          It sure seems like the non-progressives have taken their ball and went home. Some allies.

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            You’re right. It was insensitive of me to pledge my vote to the guy who has not made a campaign promise to overturn trans rights. Tell me, how can I be a better ally in the future?

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              I’m saying dems are putting those rights at risk by alienating progressive voters. If all it takes is throwing progressives a couple of bones, then its irresponsible to not do it.

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                It’s not my fault for not pulling the lever. It’s the fault of the conductor of the trolley for not pulling the brakes (which had failed).