If you can’t see that we have real problems in this country that neither party is solving, you need to get a fucking grip.

I’m done with you, you’re the one who decided to engage on a days old thread.

Your candidate is touting the support of the man who engineered the invasion of Iraq under false pretenses, and Republicans in general rolled back abortion (which is going to cost the lives of many women) and are against climate action (which is going to completely fuck over future generations, if not the current ones).

Please explain to me how throwing them a bone is going to make things any better. They’re extremist fuckers and Democrats should have a bold progressive plan instead of throwing them a bone.

But go ahead, continue to vote shame instead of taking a long look in the mirror.

Seriously, fuck Dick Cheney.

"I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support and what he has done to serve our country. "

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-campaign-liz-cheney-wisconsin-republicans/

"I think it would be to the benefit of the American public to have a member of my Cabinet who was a Republican.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/kamala-harris-pledges-republican-cabinet-member-rcna168879

Hey I just want to say I appreciate you treating me with respect which is more than I can say for a bunch of other commenters here.

I think the president has a decent amount of power, even with a hostile congress. They can declare a climate emergency, and get funding for renewable energy that way; they can enforce an arms embargo or other sanctions (on say, Israel), they can use the bully pulpit to point out the hypocrisy of congress’s inaction.

But the most important thing to come out of it would be that the Democratic party would be forced to listen to people on the left, and not just court right wingers all the time.

Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism.

I’m voting for the Green party, not a fascist.

That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of.

The entirety of the United Nations except the US and Israel has condemned the massacre in Gaza as a genocide. You think everyone would be proud of voting for someone who intends to continue to ship weapons to Israel?

You’d rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.

No proof and regardless this is bigger than Jill Stein, this is about building power to the left of the Democratic party. Claudia De la Cruz would definitely be my preferred candidate over Stein, but it is what it is.

Ah, name-calling instead of addressing my argument; classic!

Voting blue in a solid blue state for a candidate I have huge moral issues with (Palestine, climate change) is the definition of throwing my vote away.

Why would I list the differences between Stein and Trump when I literally just said that I hope Trump loses (and thrown in jail). At no point was I ever considering voting for him. The whole point is that third parties aren’t part of the corporate duopoly.

I’m explaining why I’m voting my conscience in a rigged FPTP system where my vote otherwise amounts to nothing (because again I’m in a blue state), but clearly nothing I say is going to stop you from making insinuations.

Edited: the last sentence of my first paragraph for clarity

what in gods holy name are you blathering about

Notable differences between Stein and Harris:

• opposes genocide in Gaza
• opposes fracking
• stronger on the environment
• approves of single payer healthcare
• approves of tuition free colleges for all
• wants to slash our bloated military budget

I live in a blue state and will be voting Green to try to build momentum for third parties and STAR voting. I do hope Trump is defeated and thrown in jail, and I’d reconsider my vote if I lived in a purple state.

She did fine, if anything it was eye opening to me how many shitlibs are on r/politics

Yes, fuck the GOP and their extremist agenda.

• Praising war criminal Dick Cheney and accepting the endorsement of many extremist right wing political figures (this is everywhere I’m not posting a source on this)
• No progress on halting shipments to Israel as they plunge us further to World War 3
• Withdrew support for M4A (I guess that’s pretty old, happened during the 2020 primary, but still frustrating for leftists)
• Pledges hundreds of millions of dollars to secure the southern border, including building Trump’s wall
• Won’t ban fracking

Look I hope she gets more votes than Trump, but she continues to make zero concessions to the left while there’s a gigantic Uncommitted movement in Michigan, a crucial swing state.

Democrats would rather lose to a fascist than allow someone pushing for true change get power (see what they did to Bernie in the primaries, and how they’re suing to keep third parties off the ballot while not pushing a ranked choice voting option at all).

Feel the same way!

He should definitely be arrested

They’re liars and cowards

That’s smart, meeting with potential voters who still haven’t pledged their vote yet is definitely a waste of time.

Classic Microsoft, muddying the waters of something that was clearly defined in its role and name

I’ve never been interested in Palworld, and I certainly don’t intend to play it, but I’ll probably buy it today.

Because fuck Nintendo.

From https://www.coe.int/en/web/gender-matters/sex-and-gender

Sex refers to “the different biological and physiological characteristics of males and females, such as reproductive organs, chromosomes, hormones, etc.” Gender refers to "the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed.

So people want to be seen as the same gender as they feel they are, this seems reasonable to me.

Also from that same site:

Traditional gender norms are hierarchical: they presuppose an unequal power structure related to gender that disadvantages mostly women.

People don’t think there should be an inherent advantage to being male, which I also think is quite reasonable.