• over_clox
      -4•9 days ago

      The only practical way they’re gonna reduce emissions from cows is to reduce the number of cows. How do you do that? Place restrictions on farmers breeding cows, place hefty fines on farmers that exceed those restrictions, and eat more cows.

      Taxing the farmers a measly €100 per year per cow isn’t gonna do all that much. You have any idea how much a good healthy cow is worth? Especially dairy cows, they just keep on delivering milk, for years.

      That’s basically my point, taxing the farmers what adds up to chump change in the cattle industry is not going to reduce the number of cattle.

      • grueEnglish
        2•9 days ago

        How do you do that?

        By making beef more expensive so that fewer people want to buy it. We’ve been over this three times already.

        • over_clox
          -4•9 days ago

          Cows don’t disappear when there’s less demand. Cows disappear when people eat them, if they’d just regulate the breeding side of the cattle industry.

          • grueEnglish
            3•9 days ago

            They breed fewer of them when there’s less demand.

            • over_clox
              -1•9 days ago9 days ago

              Let’s do some math here…

              100 / 365 ≈ €0.274 per day.

              You really think that’ll put much of a dent in a farmer’s wallet?

              Let’s do some more math. Let’s say they raise the price of a gallon of milk by €0.10. Nobody will bat an eye, they’ll just chalk it up to general inflation.

              A good healthy dairy cow produces ~ 9 gallons of milk per day.

              So, €0.10 * 9 = €0.90 per day extra, per dairy cow. That would actually yield the farmer an actual net gain of ~ €0.626 per day, per cow, subtracting the daily tax.

              That would actually end up with the farmer gaining ~ €228.50 per year per cow, after the tax.

              Ain’t nobody gonna bat an eye if they raise the cost of milk by €0.10 per gallon. Nothing will change, except the farmers will jack the prices around just enough that nobody cares and they actually profit from it.

              • grueEnglish
                3•9 days ago9 days ago

                Oh, so you’re saying the tax is a good start but should be a lot higher? Fair enough then, I agree!

                • over_clox
                  0•9 days ago9 days ago

                  Sure, let’s work on it.

                  Believe it or not, I haven’t had any milk in years. I’ve probably had a few burgers and meatballs with spaghetti a few times over the years, but those meals have been few and far between.

                  Cattle products aren’t that important to me, I can do without. So yeah, fuckit, double the prices, might actually make people think twice…

                  Edit: I occasionally do eat pizza, so maybe a little more milk product in my diet, but even that isn’t often. Fuckit, I can give it up almost no problem, I’d just be sad to give up pizza…